[kictanet] Shooting the messenger?

Tue Oct 16 00:36:16 EAT 2012

Thank you, Grace. Yes, I am very interested in hearing more about the
meeting held last week and cannot wait to read the report.

I look forward to hearing from the other Listers on my two questions.

Best,
Brandie

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Hi Brandie
>
> On your second issue, yes it is happening. The meeting that took place
> last week was to disseminate the findings of the study on the topic. The
> main telcos were present and did express their sentiments on the matter.
> The Industry regulator was also present as well as the government represent
> by the PS Ministry of Info.
>
> We will share the final study once it is finalized and you will probably
> get more information.
>
> However, I know Listers will respond to you on the questions you have
> raised.
> Rgds
> GG
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:07:18 -0400
>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Shooting the messenger?
> From: blm5350 at psu.edu
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>
>
> Good evening Listers:
>    I would like to pose two questions to the group. I was recently in
> Kenya and had the opportunity to interview many of you on the issue of
> intermediary liability in regard to the use of ICT platforms to promote
> social unrest and whether ISPs and telcos could shutdown ICT platforms.
> Thank you, again, to all of those with whom I spoke. I have learned a great
> deal from all of you.
> *
> *
> *Do you believe there will be any policies drafted to structure what ISPs
> and Telcos should do if their platforms are used for dissent that could
> promote violence? *
>
> I believe this issue was discussed by Victor Kapiyo at the July EAIGF held
> in Nairobi.
> *
> *
> *Has any of the discussion from the EAIGF been used to inform current
> sentiment toward intermediary liability?*
>
> Thank you very much,
> Brandie L. Martin
>
> --
> Brandie Martin, M.S.
>
> Ph.D. Candidate and Graduate Fellow
> College of Communications
> The Pennsylvania State University
> blm5350 at psu.edu
> website: http://brandiemartin.wordpress.com/
> twitter: https://twitter.com/Brandie_Martin
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>  Good morning Listers
>
> I hope your week is starting well.
>
> Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary
> liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with
> this discussion for this week.
>
>
> As Kenya prepares for elections next year, and with all the political
> alignments taking place, we are likely to see intermediaries being blamed
> for carrying utterances of our politicians. The media has been blamed many
> times by politicians for ‘misquoting’ them yet in many instances there is
> video footage to confirm that the politicians did indeed say certain
> things. ****
>
>
> For those who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad
> and resulted in the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to
> Libya and three American members of his staff by angry protesters (or
> lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or
> where would you place the responsibility for this eventuality? Would you
> say it is the video producers or or youtube or who?****
>
>
> Lets hear it from you listers.
>
>
> A wonderful week to all of you.
>
> Rgds
>
> GG
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300
> > From: alice at apc.org
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya
> > CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> >
> > Dear Chip and all
> >
> >
> > Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary
> > liability discussions.
> >
> > However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our "mobile switch
> > off" (and here's a great article on that
> >
> http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and-what-next/
> )
> >
> > We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet
> > liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But
> > this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.
> >
> >
> > Best
> > Alice
>
>
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-- 
Brandie Martin, M.S.

Ph.D. Candidate and Graduate Fellow
College of Communications
The Pennsylvania State University
blm5350 at psu.edu
website: http://brandiemartin.wordpress.com/
twitter: https://twitter.com/Brandie_Martin
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