[kictanet] Shooting the messenger?

Tue Oct 16 00:34:12 EAT 2012

Hi Brandie
On your second issue, yes it is happening. The meeting that took place last week was to disseminate the findings of the study on the topic. The main telcos were present and did express their sentiments on the matter. The Industry regulator was also present as well as the government represent by the PS Ministry of Info. 
We will share the final study once it is finalized and you will probably get more information.
However, I know Listers will respond to you on the questions you have raised. RgdsGG

Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:07:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Shooting the messenger?
From: blm5350 at psu.edu
To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke

Good evening Listers:   I would like to pose two questions to the group. I was recently in Kenya and had the opportunity to interview many of you on the issue of intermediary liability in regard to the use of ICT platforms to promote social unrest and whether ISPs and telcos could shutdown ICT platforms. Thank you, again, to all of those with whom I spoke. I have learned a great deal from all of you.

Do you believe there will be any policies drafted to structure what ISPs and Telcos should do if their platforms are used for dissent that could promote violence? 

I believe this issue was discussed by Victor Kapiyo at the July EAIGF held in Nairobi.
Has any of the discussion from the EAIGF been used to inform current sentiment toward intermediary liability?

Thank you very much,Brandie L. Martin
-- 
Brandie Martin, M.S.

Ph.D. Candidate and Graduate Fellow
College of CommunicationsThe Pennsylvania State University
blm5350 at psu.edu
website: http://brandiemartin.wordpress.com/
twitter: https://twitter.com/Brandie_Martin

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com> wrote:

Good morning Listers
I hope your week is starting well.
Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with this discussion for this week. 

As Kenya prepares for elections next
year, and with all the political alignments taking place, we are likely to see
intermediaries being blamed for carrying utterances of our politicians. The
media has been blamed many times by politicians for ‘misquoting’ them yet in
many instances there is video footage to confirm that the politicians did
indeed say certain things. 

For those
who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and resulted in
the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to Libya and three
American members of his staff by angry protesters (or lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or  where would you place the
responsibility for this eventuality? Would you say it is the video producers or or youtube or who?

Lets hear it from you listers.

A wonderful week to all of you.
RgdsGG

> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300
> From: alice at apc.org
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya

> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
> 
> Dear Chip  and all

> 
> 
> Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary 
> liability discussions.
> 
> However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our  "mobile switch 

> off"  (and here's a great article on that 
> http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and-what-next/)

> 
> We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet 
> liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But 
> this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.

> 
> 
> Best
> Alice

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