[kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road

Wed May 16 10:35:29 EAT 2012

Barrack, if you wait for the people charged with that responsibility
to act, we shall all perish. Kenyans, including leaders, are known to
react and not act. The thing is this, regulations and policies are in
place, but who bothers to read them? The implementation of these
policies begin with you and I. I have also used Thika Road for more
than 20 years and still use it even now, and the marvelous changes in
place cannot go unnoticed, but our behaviour has remained the same -
act when things have gone wrong. Perhaps, I should ask, who has the
original masterplan for Thika Road expansion before the construction
begun? And how many times, if any, did we have a public forum to
discuss the State of Thika Road, before the actual construction begun?
You see why I'm saying we only react when things have gone awry? Let's
shift attitude and walk the talk.

On 16/05/2012, otieno.barrack at gmail.com <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Solomon, that's why we have state agencies to do the job, try stopping an
> overlapping matatu and they will ask you who you think you are, infact to
> borrow a previous listers word they will tell you they have driven that way
> for the last 20 years, I recently circulated the new traffic act to some
> friends and a learned one informed me that it was just an empty threat until
> that bill became a law, as a policy making we higlight the issues, look at
> possible solutions from a policy or regulatory perspective and demand
> action, aka whining, we have no business teaching people how to stick to
> their lanes or speed limits, there are people paid to do that work.
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Solomon Mb r  Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:12:34
> To: <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road
>
> Just a by the way, when the latest and unfortunate blast that hit a
> Mombasa club yesterday, someone on Facebook aptly put the blame on
> Prof. Saitoti, urging him to resign. I just couldn't understand the
> unjustifiable rationale there, yet we harbour crooks in our midst and
> fail to report them to law enforcers. Now back to this topic, I think
> it's each person's responsibility to the well-being of all road users
> on Thika Road or any other road for that matter. When a rogue matatu
> driver decides to overlap or drives at devil's speed, the passengers
> will urge him to go ahead, with zest, replicating the 'dereva tia
> moto', attitude. Yes, each one of us is guilty, because we - from the
> Minister in charge of roads, traffic cops, drivers and pedestrians -
> have failed to take a collective responsibility on our roads. We need
> to stand up and be active participants on how to make our roads safe.
> It's not just the responsibility of the contractors (or government)
> but each one of us.
>
> On 16/05/2012, otieno.barrack at gmail.com <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like the way some of us  take things casually until that rogue driver
>> rams
>> into you and maims you , I liken it to the way our football stars have
>> abandoned the National team because of mediocre management yet instead of
>> addressing the issue we call it whining and lack of patriotism, lest I
>> forget we need 10 billion to fix our beautifull roads that were recently
>> constructed no wonder MJ called us peculiar, tafakari hayo.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Francis Hook <francis.hook at gmail.com>
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>> Wed, 16 May 2012 08:26:40
>> To: <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On 16 May 2012 08:19, K Machuhi <kmachuhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This Thika Road whining is becoming rather tiring.
>>> It is your duty as a driver to observe caution and to be your brother's
>>> keeper.
>>> As a frequent user of the road (all of it) for the last 22 years, I
>>> marvel
>>> at the new piece of road we have there; as i marvel at recklessness of
>>> some
>>> drivers.
>>>
>>> May China's Wu Yi and others move their magic to Ngong road....
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it is indeed sad when state officials defend obvious ills.
>>>>
>>>> There is a problem, everyone sees it but they would rather deny it
>>>> exists
>>>> and blame detractors. Whatever happened to standards?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Very sad indeed to hear the Minister of Roads (today on TV) defend
>>>>> Thika
>>>>> road unconvincingly!
>>>>>
>>>>> When things are not done well, we must be honest enough to acknowledge
>>>>> where things went wrong and to come up with some proposals on what
>>>>> will
>>>>> be
>>>>> done to improve the works and address the high road carnage. Rather
>>>>> than
>>>>> resort to the usual defensive position - that does not help anyone
>>>>> Minister
>>>>> Bett. I would have expected you to have an open forum to discuss the
>>>>> concerns of Kenyans rather than be so dismissive!
>>>>>
>>>>> Despite being assured that the issue had been brought to the attention
>>>>> of
>>>>> Eng Kidenda, there is no response to date! Grace, I wonder if you had
>>>>> any
>>>>> luck in reaching Eng Kidenda for an open debate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Edith, Concerned Kenyan Citizen!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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