[kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road

Wed May 16 10:22:08 EAT 2012

Solomon, that's why we have state agencies to do the job, try stopping an overlapping matatu and they will ask you who you think you are, infact to borrow a previous listers word they will tell you they have driven that way for the last 20 years, I recently circulated the new traffic act to some friends and a learned one informed me that it was just an empty threat until that bill became a law, as a policy making we higlight the issues, look at possible solutions from a policy or regulatory perspective and demand action, aka whining, we have no business teaching people how to stick to their lanes or speed limits, there are people paid to do that work.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Solomon Mbr Kamau <solo.mburu at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:12:34 
To: <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road

Just a by the way, when the latest and unfortunate blast that hit a
Mombasa club yesterday, someone on Facebook aptly put the blame on
Prof. Saitoti, urging him to resign. I just couldn't understand the
unjustifiable rationale there, yet we harbour crooks in our midst and
fail to report them to law enforcers. Now back to this topic, I think
it's each person's responsibility to the well-being of all road users
on Thika Road or any other road for that matter. When a rogue matatu
driver decides to overlap or drives at devil's speed, the passengers
will urge him to go ahead, with zest, replicating the 'dereva tia
moto', attitude. Yes, each one of us is guilty, because we - from the
Minister in charge of roads, traffic cops, drivers and pedestrians -
have failed to take a collective responsibility on our roads. We need
to stand up and be active participants on how to make our roads safe.
It's not just the responsibility of the contractors (or government)
but each one of us.

On 16/05/2012, otieno.barrack at gmail.com <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like the way some of us  take things casually until that rogue driver rams
> into you and maims you , I liken it to the way our football stars have
> abandoned the National team because of mediocre management yet instead of
> addressing the issue we call it whining and lack of patriotism, lest I
> forget we need 10 billion to fix our beautifull roads that were recently
> constructed no wonder MJ called us peculiar, tafakari hayo.
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Revisiting Deadly Thika Road
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> On 16 May 2012 08:19, K Machuhi <kmachuhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This Thika Road whining is becoming rather tiring.
>> It is your duty as a driver to observe caution and to be your brother's
>> keeper.
>> As a frequent user of the road (all of it) for the last 22 years, I
>> marvel
>> at the new piece of road we have there; as i marvel at recklessness of
>> some
>> drivers.
>>
>> May China's Wu Yi and others move their magic to Ngong road....
>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> it is indeed sad when state officials defend obvious ills.
>>>
>>> There is a problem, everyone sees it but they would rather deny it
>>> exists
>>> and blame detractors. Whatever happened to standards?
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Listers,
>>>>
>>>> Very sad indeed to hear the Minister of Roads (today on TV) defend
>>>> Thika
>>>> road unconvincingly!
>>>>
>>>> When things are not done well, we must be honest enough to acknowledge
>>>> where things went wrong and to come up with some proposals on what will
>>>> be
>>>> done to improve the works and address the high road carnage. Rather
>>>> than
>>>> resort to the usual defensive position - that does not help anyone
>>>> Minister
>>>> Bett. I would have expected you to have an open forum to discuss the
>>>> concerns of Kenyans rather than be so dismissive!
>>>>
>>>> Despite being assured that the issue had been brought to the attention
>>>> of
>>>> Eng Kidenda, there is no response to date! Grace, I wonder if you had
>>>> any
>>>> luck in reaching Eng Kidenda for an open debate.
>>>>
>>>> Edith, Concerned Kenyan Citizen!
>>>>
>>>>
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