[kictanet] WCITleaks just launched

Thu Jun 7 11:24:00 EAT 2012

Thank You Walubengo for your observations.

You are not wrong at all. Time for being duped is over, but I doubt if we
have any muscle.

Regards.

On 7 June 2012 11:10, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

> @Kivuva,
>
> I tend to see it that way too.  As a global community, we have to chose
> whether we want the Internet to governed from Washington or NYC
> (UN-aka-ITU).
>
> Either way, Uncle Sam will somehow retain veto power.  I remember reading
> somewhere that one Congress man said that he cannot understand how -
> assuming Internet Governance goes the United Nations way - he could NOT
> understand how the US would have the same vote/powers as say Somalia,
> Afghanistan and others (e.g Kenya?) whose society may not be as intricately
> tied to the Internet as thiers is..
>
> What is worse, the motive of some countries to control the Internet is
> quite suspect - recall an earlier post I made about Google not "working"
> from Guangzhou, China? I suspect most African governments are coming in
> from this perspective and use ITU to sanitize such agenda with the correct
> diplomatic legalese.  ITU plays along since they would not mind a redifned
> role (control internet) in the current dispensation of a knowledge economy.
>
> But that's just my personal view and I do hope am wrong.
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Thu, 6/7/12, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] WCITleaks just launched
>
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012, 10:17 AM
>
>
> Well, the issue of Internet governance is a hot topic involving hard
> diplomacy. US has put fifth gear in its propaganda machinery. We all know
> that the Internet is Governed from Washington, with president Bush in
> his reign vetoing many proposals from ICANN. We all know how powerful
> this behemoth ICANN is, and that it reports to USA Department of Commerce.
>
> The revenue these California firms get from gTLDs an other payouts is
> huge, so don't expect them to relinquish control over the internet without
> a fight.
>
> We all know anybody who controls root servers, the domain names, IP
> numbers, and AS numbers, control a huge chunk of the internet. They can
> even refuse to propagate a zone file for a particular ccTLD. US still has
> the majority primary root servers.
>
> Are we forgetting SOPA?
>
> Is there anybody who never heard of wikileaks.org? The US put pressure
> on registrars to drop it like hot coal. Julian Assange had to seek refuge
> on ccTLDs and mirror sites to broadcast his message.  So if we are talking
> about internet freedom, "the land of the free" is the true jail for our
> beloved internet.
>
> Bottom line, is it better for the life of the internet to be controlled
> from Washington (read one country), or for it to be controlled by UN? Of
> course UN is still not the most neutral place, with US bankrolling it.
>
>
> On 7 June 2012 09:28, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  What ?
>
> GG,
>
> at this rate, we are likely going to see how Kenya has been voting all
> along on this matters!
>
> If this was from Nollywood(Nigerian movie) soon to be replaced by our very
> own Riverwood (Nairobi River Road) I would say "the plot thickens" .
>
> walu.
> --- On *Thu, 6/7/12, Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [kictanet] WCITleaks just launched
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012, 12:48 AM
>
>
>
> http://wcitleaks.org/
>
> Wednesday, June 6, 2012
>  Today we’re launching WCITLeaks.orgAs you may have heard, the UN is
> trying to take over the internet. Well, that’s not really true, but
> member states of the UN’s International Telecommunications Union (ITU) are
> definitely going to negotiate an agreement related to the Internet at the
> World Conference on International Communications (WCIT - pronounced
> ‘wicket’) this December in Dubai. U.S. officials have warned that some
> member states, including Russia and China, have put forth proposals to
> regulate the Internet. Vint Cerf has warned that “Such proposals raise
> the prospect of policies that enable government controls but greatly
> diminish the ‘permissionless innovation’ that underlies extraordinary
> Internet-based economic growth to say nothing of trampling human rights.”
> So what are these proposals? Well, we don’t know exactly. To see them, you
> have to have access to the ITU’s password protected website. This lack of
> transparency brings to mind secret negotiations like the one that gave us
> ACTA, and several civil society groups have written to the ITU demanding
> access to the documents.
> The proposals are not classified and it’s not illegal to share them. In
> fact, they often are shared. At a recent panel discussion that I
> attended, the State Department’s Richard Beaird said, “Access to the
> proposals, of course, as I have done and others have done, is if you ask
> me, I will give you those proposals. I don’t want to have a flood of
> requests coming in from the room or those int he television audience.”
> At the time, I tweeted: “If someone will pass them to me, I volunteer to
> host a site with gov WCIT proposals.” It seemed weird to me that someone
> wasn’t collecting and publishing the documents, like how opencrs.com does
> with Congressional Research Service reports. I promptly forgot about the
> idea, but was reminded yesterday when Milton Mueller wrote this posturging the U.S. to make documents available. He wrote:
>
> Today, IGP has learned that the U.S. government is in possession of a
> document that brings together descriptions of all the WCIT proposals
> emerging from the ITU’s Council Working Group. The document, known as TD
> 64, compiles all the proposals on the table into a single document without
> attributing them to any specific government. No law or treaty stops the US
> government from making this document available to the public. We urge the
> U.S. government to release TD 64 of the ITU Council Working Group
> immediately.
>
> Of course, while it’s not illegal, publishing these documents is probably
> not considered polite in the rarefied diplomatic circles of the ITU. So, I
> thought we’d give folks with access to the documents a helping hand.
> Yesterday Eli Dourado and I spent a couple of hours putting together a
> website at WCITLeaks.org. The idea is simple: If you have a WCIT or ITU
> related document you’d like to share, submit it anonymously and we will
> publish it. That’s it. We hope you find it useful and that you’ll spread
> the word.
>
>
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