[kictanet] is an e-book a book?

lordmwesh lordmwesh at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 10:23:34 EAT 2011


A Kindle being an ebook reader, with no other functionality, makes it more
of a library of books than a laptop.

A Kindle uses wireless
connectivity<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_network>to enable
users to shop for, download, browse, and read
e-books <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-book>, newspapers, magazines,
blogs, and other digital media <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_media>.
[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle#cite_note-0> The Kindle
hardware devices use an E Ink <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Ink> electronic
paper <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_paper> display that shows up
to 16 shades of gray, minimizes power use and simulates reading on paper

On 1 November 2011 10:03, Anderson Levi <anderson.levi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think Mark's point of a Kindle being a device used to access e-books, as
> opposed to it being an e-book is valid. Another analogy that could
> illustrate the same is movies. I can watch a movie on my TV set, my laptop,
> my ipad etc but that doesn't make those devices movies. They are merely
> hardware devices that allow me to access the movie content... just like the
> Kindle enables me to access the contents of e-books.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Your analogy raises more questions than answers such as is e-mail mail?
>>
>> If by law sending a notification by mail or e-mail suffices as
>> notification, and sending me an abusive SMS text is treated as if you did
>> the same to my face then why is it that an e-book printed in e-ink is not
>> treated in the same way as a book printed in ink?
>>
>> As definitions expand so should other related functions therefore in my
>> case printed matter goes beyond paper and ink in as far as the expanded
>> definition, therefore by extention an ebook is a book and a kindle is a
>> form of printed matter and should be treated the same in so long as tax
>> treatment is concerned.
>>
>> If you run a shop on ebay or amazon are you liable to taxation in Kenya?
>>  Is Safaricom liable to pay tax on its income from MPesa yet the
>> transaction actually takes place in Germany?
>>
>> Questions, questions and more questions but where are the answers, I ask?
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com>
>> *To:* robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 29 October 2011, 9:34
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] is an e-book a book?
>>
>> an ebooks reader is not a book like a hotel is not food. an ebooks is
>> a digital product so the kra is right in billing for the hardware.
>>
>> On 10/27/11, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > My son's kindle crashed and Amazon sent him a replacement which arrived
>> a
>> > few days ago.
>> >
>> > Fortunately the customs fellow accepted that it is a computer device and
>> > therefore did not charge duty and VAT but I still needed to pay 6,000/-
>> that
>> > was categorised as GOK charges which interestingly do not apply to
>> books.
>> >
>> > In my understanding a kindle is a book and therefore it needs to be
>> treated
>> > as such otherwise we are shooting ourselves in the leg as we talk about
>> > e-books for use in school.
>> >
>> > Yesterday at the launch of the Safaricom Cloud both Dr. Ndemo and Bob
>> > Collimore both emphasised e-book readers but if the cost of shipping in
>> the
>> > readers is hindered by taxes all because someone at KRA refuses to move
>> with
>> > the times both this visionaries will remain frustrated.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Its interested what a free meal can bring out
>> >
>> > Robert Yawe
>> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> > Kenya
>> >
>> >
>> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Mwangi
>>
>> http://mwangy.wordpress.com
>>
>>
>>
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