[kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities

Tue Jun 7 12:18:03 EAT 2011

Barack,

I agree that a stakeholder forum would be important in tackling this. But
how to prevent it from being just another 'talking shop'. It would need
serious buy-in from the most important stakeholders i.e both GoK ministries
of health. My feeling is that this is low on their priority list...

Victor

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities

Interesting thoughts colleagues at the beginning of this thread I proposed a
stakeholder forum to agree on a framework for implementing the best
proposals, two major ICT companies have already developed solutions and are
agreeable to public private partnerships, there are people willing to donate
their time like Phares, I believe that would be a better way to develop a
lasting solution, we have a very proactive Ps and I believe he can bring on
board his counterparts from the health sector.

On 6/6/11, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:
> We as a society have a general problem with ethics. Corruption will 
> not be stopped by technology (as KRA have adequately shown 
> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/KRA+staff+tamper+with+system/-/1
> 006/1175610/-/4bvxgl/-/index.html
> ).
>
> A system of ethics needs to be ingrained in the country. A realization 
> that when you don't do your job/take shortcuts/cut corners/bribe etc 
> the consequences go beyond your immediate short term gain... the fact 
> that such behaviour in the long run, if goes unchecked affects you... 
> I think what's worse for me is that while 'our generation' had a 
> proper grounding in ethics etc and chose to depart from them, the 
> newer generation ships with flawed function i.e. ask an 18 year old if 
> it's wrong to overlap in traffic, he won't agree, it's behaviour he has
seen since he was a child...
>
> With regards to software for hospitals, it's rather simple to build 
> and maintain an Open Source cloud based repository and get hosting for 
> it, I guess the biggest question would be whether anyone would use 
> it... I have a background in cloud computing/virtualization etc and 
> would be willing to volunteer my time for the same...
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I 
>> liked a statement by a former Facebook employee who said that "at 
>> Facebook you do not say I think or I have an idea, what you do is 
>> develop a prototype and then present that to your peers"*
>>
>> Agreed! Let's walk the talk.
>> --
>> Josiah Mugambi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:41 PM, robert yawe
<robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I 
>>> liked a statement by a former Facebook employee who said that "at 
>>> Facebook you do not say I think or I have an idea, what you do is 
>>> develop a prototype and then present that to your peers"
>>>
>>> Such a culture explains why Facebook is as successful as it is and 
>>> all we do here is cry like suckling babies, if someone has a 
>>> solution to this issue just develop the app and present it, this 
>>> theoretical approach to dealing with issues needs to come to a 
>>> sudden and abrupt end.
>>>
>>> I feel we are producing too many theorists in our Universities and 
>>> its is time we concentrated on practical courses as is done in 
>>> technical colleges otherwise we are doomed as clerks.  Former 
>>> Presidents Moi was trying to sort this issue out with the 8-4-4 
>>> system which we keep trying to kill with no justification.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < >
>>> *Sent:* Mon, 6 June, 2011 13:16:59
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities
>>>
>>> Let me not be mistaken that I am faulting Vision 2030  - thats the 
>>> topic picked on by Gachagua - rather my concern is in the health 
>>> sector. Nurses and medical officers usually take over the roles of 
>>> doctors in many public hospitals , and will always subscribe medicine
based on symptoms.
>>> The
>>> Labs might not be well equipped for diagnosis on various tropical 
>>> ailments.
>>> As for personnel, we do have some great ones, though it appears our 
>>> best have already been lured away , see related story 
>>> http://allafrica.com/stories/201106060136.html
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> --
> With Regards,
>
> Phares Kariuki
>
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