[kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities

Tue Jun 7 08:32:20 EAT 2011

Hi,

Its open source and I believe it would run on Linux and its cloud based so can 
utilise thin clients and finally its what you do for a living.

My proposal is that you develop the app, assuming the time taken was to respond 
to a rfp, host it on your pc and then demonstrate it to us at which point we 
shall be justified in harassing the PS and any other decision makers like KICT 
Board.

That would be a true case of being ethical about the issue at hand, but if all 
we want is to speculate how we can solve the issue then we are no different from 
the rest of the citizenry which then forces me to echo Dr. Ndemo's plea Mungu tu 
atusaidie.

Regards
 Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696

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From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com>
To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 17:06:21
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities

We as a society have a general problem with ethics. Corruption will not be 
stopped by technology (as KRA have adequately shown 
 http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/KRA+staff+tamper+with+system/-/1006/1175610/-/4bvxgl/-/index.html). 

A system of ethics needs to be ingrained in the country. A realization that when 
you don't do your job/take shortcuts/cut corners/bribe etc the consequences go 
beyond your immediate short term gain... the fact that such behaviour in the 
long run, if goes unchecked affects you... I think what's worse for me is that 
while 'our generation' had a proper grounding in ethics etc and chose to depart 
from them, the newer generation ships with flawed function i.e. ask an 18 year 
old if it's wrong to overlap in traffic, he won't agree, it's behaviour he has 
seen since he was a child... 

With regards to software for hospitals, it's rather simple to build and maintain 
an Open Source cloud based repository and get hosting for it, I guess the 
biggest question would be whether anyone would use it... I have a background in 
cloud computing/virtualization etc and would be willing to volunteer my time for 
the same... 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi at gmail.com> wrote:

Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I liked a 
statement by a former Facebook employee who said that "at Facebook you do not 
say I think or I have an idea, what you do is develop a prototype and then 
present that to your peers"
>
>
>Agreed! Let's walk the talk.
>
>--
>Josiah Mugambi 
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>On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:41 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
>>
>>Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I liked a 
>>statement by a former Facebook employee who said that "at Facebook you do not 
>>say I think  or I have an idea, what you do is develop a prototype and then 
>>present that to your peers"
>>
>>
>>Such a culture explains why Facebook is as successful as it is and all we do 
>>here is cry like suckling babies, if someone has a solution to this issue just 
>>develop the app and present it, this theoretical approach to dealing with issues 
>>needs to come to a sudden and abrupt end.
>>
>>
>>I feel we are producing too many theorists in our Universities and its is time 
>>we concentrated on practical courses as is done in technical colleges otherwise 
>>we are doomed as clerks.  Former Presidents Moi was trying to sort this issue 
>>out with the 8-4-4 system which we keep trying to kill with no justification.
>>
>>
>>Regards
>> 
>>Robert Yawe
>>KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>Kenya
>>
>>
>>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>
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>>To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <>
>>Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 13:16:59
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>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities
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>>Let me not be mistaken that I am faulting Vision 2030  - thats the topic picked 
>>on by Gachagua - rather my concern is in the health sector. Nurses and medical 
>>officers usually take over the roles of doctors in many public hospitals , and 
>>will always subscribe medicine based on symptoms. The Labs might not be well 
>>equipped for diagnosis on various tropical ailments. As for personnel, we do 
>>have some great ones, though it appears our best have already been lured away , 
>>see related story http://allafrica.com/stories/201106060136.html 
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