<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Hi,</div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Its open source and I believe it would run on Linux and its cloud based so can utilise thin clients and finally its what you do for a living.</div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">My proposal is that you develop the app, assuming the time taken was to respond to a
rfp, host it on your pc and then demonstrate it to us at which point we shall be justified in harassing the PS and any other decision makers like KICT Board.</div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">That would be a true case of being ethical about the issue at hand, but if all we want is to speculate how we can solve the issue then we are no different from the rest of the citizenry which then forces me to echo Dr. Ndemo's plea <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><b>Mungu tu atusaidie.</b></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Regards<br></font><font class="Apple-style-span"
face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> </font></div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert Yawe</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; ">Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times,
serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, 6 June, 2011 17:06:21<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities<br></font><br><font color="#000066"><font size="2"><font face="tahoma,sans-serif">We as a society have a general problem with ethics. Corruption will not be stopped by technology (as KRA have adequately shown <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/KRA+staff+tamper+with+system/-/1006/1175610/-/4bvxgl/-/index.html">http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/KRA+staff+tamper+with+system/-/1006/1175610/-/4bvxgl/-/index.html</a>). </font></font></font><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000066" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000066" face="tahoma, sans-serif">A system of ethics needs to be ingrained in the country. A realization that when you don't do your job/take shortcuts/cut corners/bribe etc the consequences go beyond your immediate short term gain... the fact that such behaviour in the long run, if goes unchecked affects you... I think what's worse for me is that while 'our generation' had a proper grounding in ethics etc and chose to depart from them, the newer generation ships with flawed function i.e. ask an 18 year old if it's wrong to overlap in traffic, he won't agree, it's behaviour he has seen since he was a child... </font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000066" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000066" face="tahoma, sans-serif">With regards to software for hospitals, it's rather simple to build and maintain an Open Source cloud based repository and get hosting for it, I guess the biggest question would be whether anyone would use it... I have a background in cloud computing/virtualization etc and would be willing to volunteer my time for the same... </font></div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Josiah Mugambi <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jmugambi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jmugambi@gmail.com">jmugambi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:16px;"><i><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I liked a statement by a former </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Facebook</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> employee who said that "at Facebook you do not say I think or I have an idea, what you do is develop a prototype and then present that to your peers"</font></i></span><div>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;"><br></span></font></div></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"></font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;">Agreed! Let's walk the talk.<br clear="all">
</span></font><div dir="ltr">--<br><font color="#990000">Josiah Mugambi </font></div><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:41 PM, robert yawe <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">Hi,</div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
<br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Yesterday I watched a documentary titled Facebook Obsession and I liked a statement by a former </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Facebook</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> employee who said that "at Facebook you do not say I think
or I have an idea, what you do is develop a prototype and then present that to your peers"</font></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
<br></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Such a culture explains why Facebook is as successful as it is and all we do here is cry like suckling babies, if someone has a solution to this issue just develop the app and present it, this </font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">theoretical</font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> approach to dealing with issues needs to come to a sudden and abrupt end.</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman',
'new york', times, serif" size="3"></font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">I feel we are producing too many theorists in our Universities and its is time we concentrated on practical courses as is done in technical colleges otherwise we are doomed as clerks. Former Presidents Moi was trying to sort this issue out with the 8-4-4 system which we keep trying to kill with no justification.</font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif">Regards<br></font><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3"> </font></div>
<div><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Robert Yawe</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times,
serif" size="3">KAY System Technologies Ltd</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Phoenix House, 6th Floor</font><br><font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200</font><br>
<font face="'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif" size="3">Kenya</font><br><br></div><div style="color:black;font-size:12pt;">
Tel: <a rel="nofollow">+254722511225</a>, <a rel="nofollow">+254202010696</a><div>
<br></div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dennis Kioko <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>><div>
<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <<span style="white-space:pre-wrap;"> </span>><br>
</div><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, 6 June, 2011 13:16:59<div><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [kictanet] Of Vision 2030 and Misplaced Priorities<br></div>
</font><div><br>Let me not be mistaken that I am faulting Vision 2030 - thats the topic picked on by Gachagua - rather my concern is in the health sector. Nurses and medical officers usually take over the roles of doctors in many public hospitals , and will always subscribe medicine based on symptoms. The Labs might not be well equipped for diagnosis on various tropical ailments. As for personnel, we do have some great ones, though it appears our best have already been lured away , see related story <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://allafrica.com/stories/201106060136.html">http://allafrica.com/stories/201106060136.html</a>
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