[kictanet] UCC attempts to block social networks

Wed Apr 27 10:16:08 EAT 2011

This statistic quoted by Dr. Ndemo is shocking!

"Every Monday the combined Church offering banked in the country is in
excess of Ksh. 5 billion which ends up in individual pockets.  Does this not
affect the
poor"
Here is a quotation from the words of Jesus.

*Mathew 25:41-46* Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart
from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his
angels:
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me
no drink:  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me
not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not  Then shall they also answer
him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger,
or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?Then shall
he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did *it* not
to one of the least of these, ye did *it* not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into
life eternal.

Is the Church listening or waiting for the government to introduce
regulations? Is the Church offering solutions to alleviate the suffering of
Kenyans or is it part of the problem?

Etinick Mutinda
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM, <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:

> Stephen,
> We are a developing country.  This means that we have not achieved the
> full efficiencies you see in the West.  The Government has done more to
> the poor than you admit.  When you Exaggerate your numbers you weaken your
> arguments and you make feel as if you do not know what you are talking
> about.  There is no average income of Ksh. 5 million in Kenya.  We are
> going through a very difficult time in the world today.  Inflation did not
> inform the Government that it was on the way.  Non of us would have
> expected the crisis in the middle east.  The Government has acted and
> still working on more mitigation measures.
>
> You have to understand that the Government is going through inspite of the
> many problems.  There is the implementation of the New Constitution, the
> drought, the IDPs etc.  Our moral failure greatly contributes to
> corruption.  We must fight the vice as a people.  It has penetrated every
> aspect of our lifes including our religious establishment. Every Monday
> the combined Church offering banked in the country is in excess of Ksh. 5
> billion which ends up in individual pockets.  Does this not affect the
> poor?  Let us find well reasoned ways of taking our country forward.
> Political reforms that are going on have far greater implications on all
> our social evils than any period before.
>
> Have a great day.
>
> Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks Andrea. You are so apt. Perhaps Dr. Ndemo needs to find time to
> > have a lesson or two from your argument. There is a clear difference
> > between the reaction of "real consumers" as Eng. Wainaina and other
> > minority middle to higher class Kenyans will argue - after affording 3
> > seven-course meals daily - and millions of low income earners who survive
> > on a poor single meal a day would respond! When we argue from the comfort
> > of our Nairobi offices, we need to take a moment and ask for instance why
> > our domestic workers should pay for a loaf of bread as we do when we pay
> > them Sh5K and we we have an average income of Sh5M. Lets us not be
> > insensitive! You cant talk of ICT innovation on an empty stomach! Yes,
> > times are hard for governments people dont have to get to the streets -
> > but on inefficiencies, wastages and corruption that drive costs of living
> > - is there any (innovation) of a lamguage that govt understands better?
> > Would Mubarak and Gbagbo have left power through "innovations"? Anyway,
> > there must be a balance between consumer demands and governments
> > mitigation. Govts need to invest in serious commitments and communicate.
> > They should not spring surprises on poor masses as they live large and
> > expect poor people not to protest - in whatever best way that catches
> > their action!
> >
> > Good morning!
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrea Bohnstedt <andrea.bohnstedt at ratio-magazine.com>
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> > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:21:59
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