<div>This statistic quoted by Dr. Ndemo is shocking!</div>
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<div>"Every Monday the combined Church offering banked in the country is in excess of Ksh. 5 billion which ends up in individual pockets. Does this not affect the<br>poor"<br></div>
<div>Here is a quotation from the words of Jesus.</div>
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<div><strong>Mathew 25:41-46</strong> <font color="#ba0000">Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:</font> <br><font color="#ba0000">For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:</font> <font color="#ba0000">I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not </font> <font color="#ba0000">Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?</font><font color="#ba0000">Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did <i>it</i> not to one of the least of these, ye did <i>it</i> not to me.</font> <br>
<font color="#ba0000">And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.</font></div>
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<div>Is the Church listening or waiting for the government to introduce regulations? Is the Church offering solutions to alleviate the suffering of Kenyans or is it part of the problem? </div>
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<div>Etinick Mutinda<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:30 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitange@jambo.co.ke">bitange@jambo.co.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Stephen,<br>We are a developing country. This means that we have not achieved the<br>full efficiencies you see in the West. The Government has done more to<br>
the poor than you admit. When you Exaggerate your numbers you weaken your<br>arguments and you make feel as if you do not know what you are talking<br>about. There is no average income of Ksh. 5 million in Kenya. We are<br>
going through a very difficult time in the world today. Inflation did not<br>inform the Government that it was on the way. Non of us would have<br>expected the crisis in the middle east. The Government has acted and<br>
still working on more mitigation measures.<br><br>You have to understand that the Government is going through inspite of the<br>many problems. There is the implementation of the New Constitution, the<br>drought, the IDPs etc. Our moral failure greatly contributes to<br>
corruption. We must fight the vice as a people. It has penetrated every<br>aspect of our lifes including our religious establishment. Every Monday<br>the combined Church offering banked in the country is in excess of Ksh. 5<br>
billion which ends up in individual pockets. Does this not affect the<br>poor? Let us find well reasoned ways of taking our country forward.<br>Political reforms that are going on have far greater implications on all<br>
our social evils than any period before.<br><br>Have a great day.<br><br>Ndemo.<br>
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<div class="h5"><br><br><br><br><br>> Thanks Andrea. You are so apt. Perhaps Dr. Ndemo needs to find time to<br>> have a lesson or two from your argument. There is a clear difference<br>> between the reaction of "real consumers" as Eng. Wainaina and other<br>
> minority middle to higher class Kenyans will argue - after affording 3<br>> seven-course meals daily - and millions of low income earners who survive<br>> on a poor single meal a day would respond! When we argue from the comfort<br>
> of our Nairobi offices, we need to take a moment and ask for instance why<br>> our domestic workers should pay for a loaf of bread as we do when we pay<br>> them Sh5K and we we have an average income of Sh5M. Lets us not be<br>
> insensitive! You cant talk of ICT innovation on an empty stomach! Yes,<br>> times are hard for governments people dont have to get to the streets -<br>> but on inefficiencies, wastages and corruption that drive costs of living<br>
> - is there any (innovation) of a lamguage that govt understands better?<br>> Would Mubarak and Gbagbo have left power through "innovations"? Anyway,<br>> there must be a balance between consumer demands and governments<br>
> mitigation. Govts need to invest in serious commitments and communicate.<br>> They should not spring surprises on poor masses as they live large and<br>> expect poor people not to protest - in whatever best way that catches<br>
> their action!<br>><br>> Good morning!<br>> Sent from my BlackBerry®<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Andrea Bohnstedt <<a href="mailto:andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com">andrea.bohnstedt@ratio-magazine.com</a>><br>
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