[kictanet] Yawe for Post Master General

Mon Nov 8 15:19:53 EAT 2010

Robert,

With the sheer number of posts on this list and the diverse areas of
coverage, I should think you are already a "Post Master General".

Agosta,

If Upesi are doing something right, that’s is a good thing, but it does not
mean others shouldn’t get into the fold of "doing something right".

I would be interested to know if upesi folk can deliver my "goro goro" of
maize meal and rose cocoa beans from upcountry on a monthly basis. PCK does
it for me at less than 200/= for 5kg parcel (3-7 day delivery) or (KES 350/=
for EMS following day delivery). My "ushago" is located at these
coordinates: 0.746041,35.127089 - there are no tarmac roads (so to speak)
for over 70 km and electricity just "arrived" 2 weeks ago, but there is a
functional post office (postal code 50235) that has been operational longer
than I have been alive. 

At these low rates from PCK, and with a currently functional national
footprint, all that’s needed are new efficiencies and it will be possible
for Upesi and others to build *country wide* ecommerce offerings PAP, hence
the need for an ICT visionary at the helm of PCK. In my understanding postal
services are a subset of ICT. What is lacking at PCK is a repositioning to
take advantage of the T in ICT.

Regards

Eugene 

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Behalf Of Agosta Liko
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 1:12 PM
To: Eugene Lidede
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe for Post Master General

Robert

right now, local ecommerce deliveries are being done by piki piki guys
and similar courier services pretty well and they have shown a
willingness to integrate software systems

companies like http://www.upesi.com/ look positioned to champion the
ecommerce delivery space Kenya wide, all merchants have to do is give
them packages and they take care of the rest

so maybe ecommerce will be off the table

just saying :)

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:39 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
> Will know what needs to be done to get PCK back on track, what we need is
to
> get on the inside and implement this issues.
> The sooner I can get myself appointed as PMG of PCK then sooner we can
truly
> implement e-commerce.
> Regards
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com>
> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Sent: Mon, 8 November, 2010 11:20:56
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Yawe for Post Master General
>
> This is where Posta needs to think outside the box.
> Trying to compete with email (official correspondence e.g. bills,
> statements), facebook (personal correspondence e.g. letters, penpals etc)
> and MPesa (no more mailing of cheques) is folly.
> To re-invent itself Posta needs to realize that the one thing you cannot
> send via email is physical goods.
> How many businesses are based on a model of physical goods?
> Enter Posta. There is a significant opportunity in delivering goods from A
> to B. This is very difficult because finding A and B is problematic. We
> cannot depend on a system of landmarks to describe locations of businesses
> and houses. The problem is thanks to lethargic officials in charge of
> planning urbanization across Kenya is by and large unplanned. This bell
> cannot be un-rung. Some of these landmarks have deeply historical
knowledge.
> For example the NOCK stage on Haile Selassie is still called Agip. Others
> depend on other locations.
> Given that Posta has a good physical presence across Nairobi why shouldn't
> they undertake their own initiative to map the physical location of their
> customers? It would be folly to depend on City Councils more preoccupied
in
> throwing chairs. In any case, Posta should be doing KYC anyway.
> This would yield valuable information that would not only aid in their
> operations but can also be exposed to end users and consumers either
> directly or via some sort of API for courier companies to build solutions
> around receipt and dispatch.
> Given also that Posta has a large fleet of vehicles and physical presence
> across Kenya a model of physical delivery of goods is one they should be
> able to easily step into and compete favourably with the likes of DHL.
> In a nutshell this will yield the following opportunities
> - Fostering of an e-commerce industry in kenya with a closed buyer-seller
> loop (that is currently very open,hindering the same)
> - Partnering with e-comerce businesses, a new revenue stream
> - Increased business in the parcel delivery & courier sector, increased
> revenue stream
> - Enhanced productivity, since with mapped customers routes and deliveries
> can be optimized, saving costs
> - Sale of data - other couriers and businesses can pay for access to this
> data, a new revenue stream
> - Fostering development of B2B systems - with an API anyone can access
this
> data programatically (for a fee) and use this platform to build additional
> solutions, a new revenue stream
> Everyone is a winner!
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If Posta was serious about remaining relevant they would grasp the
>>> opportunity to develop and run a physical addressing system for Kenya.
>>
>>
>> @Rad!,
>> The physical addressing system: Isn't this the same thing that Kanjo
>> already started, albeit so badly? If Kanjo's was the pilot project for
>> Kenya, then I must say it's awful. It may not be surprising that some
>> officials from Kanjo went for overseas trips to learn how the physical
>> addressing+Post Codes is supposed to be done, only to come and do an
awful
>> one for Nairobi!
>> I think that "physical addressing == Post Codes", right? Can this be done
>> by Posta without involving the Kanjo's of other towns in Kenya? With the
>> poor infrastructure that we have in this country, I still wonder how
Posta
>> would deliver mail to my rural home, when I cannot even drive there
myself,
>> because the govt expects me to build the roads I need to use!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>> Nairobi,KE
>> +254733744121/+254722743223
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>> Damn!!
>>
>
>
>
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