[kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest

Fri Jul 23 11:41:32 EAT 2010

Eng J.N. Kariuki,

"Data Protection Law" - an idea whose time has come.

- Do you ever wonder what the various supermarket chains do with all that 
information they collect on your loyalty cards. (What soap you buy, toothpaste 
you use, how much you spend, where you like shopping, whether you buy in bulk or 
"reja reja").

Regards,

Leonard Obura Aloo
Advocate

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From: John Kariuki <ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: l_aloo at yahoo.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 7:15:04 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest

Dear Walu,Listers,

The subject you are discussing is best handled under "Data Protection Law" whose 
purpose is  to regulate the collection,processing,keeping,use and disclosure of 
certain information relating to individuals that is processed automatically.

Eng.J.N.Kariuki.

--- On Tue, 20/7/10, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest
>To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk
>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 13:26
>
>
>@Rad,
>
>i thot so too. in other words. you cant pull this off (broadcast) without 
>Safcom's nod. Unless ofcourse they are confessing that they are unable to 
>manage/secure their network (this would be more devastating to concede ;-).
>
>In any case as Andrea B. highlighted from the Safcoms website/terms of service, 
>it does allow them to use your numbers for:>>cut
>
>	1. For reasonable commercial purposes connected to your use of the mobile 
>service, such as marketing and research related activities;<< picked from 
>http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1133
>
>walu.
>nb: btw, i finally did the get the broadcast too, but am not complaining (for 
>now ;-)
>
>--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Rad! <conradakunga at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest
>>To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:06 PM
>>
>>
>>If mail servers can detect sudden mass mailing activity so can mobile
>>providers with a sudden increase in mass SMS originating from a single
>>source
>>
>>On Monday, July 19, 2010, James Kagwe <kagwejg at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm just wondering if Safaricom really needs to avail subscriber
>>> numbers to me to send mass SMS's. It is common knowledge that Safaricom
>>> has 0722..., 0723..., 0724... etc. If I have enough cash like we know
>>> campaigners have I just send SMS's to the numbers prefixed with those
>>> codes en masse and I'm sure I'll hit more than 60% of them.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>  On 7/16/2010 8:33 AM, Victor Gathara wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Following this with interest. I
>>> think it would be improper for networks to sell/avail subscriber
>>> numbers to others for promotional purposes because subscribers don't
>>> have a choice to opt in to this when they sign up for the service (I
>>> certainly didn't). Promotions from the network itself are of  course a
>>> different matter altogether.
>>>
>>>   Regarding spam where the sender
>>> gets phone numbers through unscrupulous means the only solution may be
>>> to press the DELETE key. Sim card registration should make it possible
>>> to pursue and prosecute offenders (assuming there is a law against
>>> spamming in Kenya).
>>>
>>>   Victor
>>>
>>>
>>>   From:
>>> kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=dfid.gov.uk at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+v-gathara=dfid.gov.uk at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>> Behalf Of dennis kipruto
>>>   Sent: 16 July 2010 08:12
>>>   To: Victor  Gathara
>>>   Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>   Subject: Re: [kictanet] Privacy vs National Interest
>>>
>>>
>>> I also got one. It seems Safaricom has a case to Answer.More so i
>>> didn't sign up for any YES Campaign media gimic. I would call the SMS a
>>> spam SMS.
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Edith Adera
>>>   <eadera at idrc.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Today I received a promotional sms from the "YES" campaign. Can
>>> Safaricom explain how our phone numbers were leaked?
>>>
>>>
>>>     Edith
>>>
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