[kictanet] Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 5 of 8 Theme : Critical Internet Resources- Continuation

Fri Jul 9 16:27:04 EAT 2010

Dear Judy,

Thank you for bringing up this debate, let me attempt to answer some of your
questions based on my understanding.

Why has it taken this long for the Minister to act? Is there a
system/process and is it underway?

*I suppose the Minister needs to be advised, the question is who will advise
him. Considering the fact that KENIC is a PPP, it is incumbent upon the
stakeholders to advise the Minister, i wonder whether the issue was tackled
at the AGM, any insights Walu or any other person who attended the agm?*

I would love to hear from the knowledgeable people, what effect has this had
in the market, more especially for the Registrars.

 *Well having attended the many training sessions organised by KENIC in the
capacity of a registrar, i must say they are on the right track, what is
lacking is cooperation from the registar community and i suppose we need to
have this issue on the KEPSA agenda, Kenic has made attempts to educate the
market and reach out to more people but i suppose we need to lend the
organisation a hand, during ICANN i spoke to Registrars from Japan and
Australia and was surprise that .jp commands 50 percent of the market share,
same case for .au, during the conversation i realised that a concerted
effort is required to educate the populace on why they need a CCTLD, i
suppose we have focused for Long on the Policy Aspects and left out the
Business aspects. all is not lost though since if the presentation that was
made during the KENIC agm is anything to go by, there is a positive trend
albeit at a low pace. my challenge at this point to stakeholders is ask not
what our CCTLD can do for us but what we can do to ensure .ke has 50 percent
market share
*

Your thoughts, inputs, corrections, are most welcome…

Kind Regards,
-- 

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:34 PM, waudo siganga <emailsignet at mailcan.com>wrote:

>  Hi Judy/All,
>
> Talking about KENIC (with the caveat that I unfortunately missed the AGM);
> but what control does KENIC actually have over its registrars e.g with the
> quality of hosting services????? Some of the registrars appear to want to
> cut corners by getting cheap but "unreliable" hosting solutions and this can
> adversely affect the uptake of .ke. Furthermore domain porting between
> registrars is a problem and I wonder what procedures KENIC has for this? For
> one I know that it is not possbile to port until the subscription expires
> and then there seems to be a very small window which appears to be the
> registrars secret weapon, meaning once you are stuck with a registrar it is
> practically impossible to escape. And last time I had a .ke domain I paid
> the registrar for renewal and this was never done. Eventually I seem to have
> lost the domain.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Waudo
>
>  On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:20 +0300, "Judy Okite" <judyokite at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> maybe we have already switched to the 'weekend mode'....:-)...
>
> looking at the KENIC situation, with the equipment/infrastructure/ capacity
> that they have, they are way up above a registrar....so what does that make
> them?
> Any knowledgeable person to give us a peek into this matter?
>
> Secondly, the high prices of domain registration:
>
>  KENIC's pricing of .co.ke is Ksh 2000/ and that for .ac & .sc is Ksh
> 500/- P/A
>
>  KENIC' s administrator ,Kiragu,  mentioned during one of the sessions in
> the ICANN 38,Nairobi....that the prices are normally agreed and passed
> during KENIC's AGM.
>
>  Was there any changes to that effect, this year?
>
> Querries, comments, corrections are welcomed!
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings All,
>
>
>
> Thank you, for all your inputs to the previous threads.  Feel free to post
> your belated remarks on the previous themes, by  clicking  on the correct
> subject/title.
>
>
>
> Today, we continue to discuss Critical Internet Resources,
>
>
>
> 1.       DNSSEC
>
> 2.       IPV6- the regulatory angle,
>
> Yesterday,on Regulation McTim,said and I quote “I am of the opinion that
> if a person or org wants to live in a v4 world, then a nation state sholdn't
> preclude them from doing that. Having said that, I think it would be useful
> to point out that most (if not all) kit imported (new and used) is either v6
> ready or with a few software changes, can be made v6 ready.”
>
> What is your thought?  Should we be concerned about e.g the hardware
> getting into our country ?
>
>  And if we should, who should be in charge of that?
>
>
>
>  Reactions?
>
>  Today , we add
>
>
>
> 3. .ke ccTLD management (Kenya Country Top Level Domain)
>
>
>
> *Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)* was borne through a broad based
> consultative process of the "Local Internet Community" with an aim to
> institute a local non-profit organization to manage and operate the .KE
> ccTLD. This was an initial step to facilitate growth of the Internet
> sub-sect and foster the uptake of ICT's in the country through a public
> private partnership (ppp's). www.kenic.or.ke
>
>
>
> KENIC has been managing the .ke , since its inception, but last year,
>
> The Kenya Communications (Amendment) Act of 2009 mandated the Commission to
> provide public policy oversight on the administration and management of the
> dot KE country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD).
>
> http://www.e-
> government.go.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=1&Itemid=119
>
>
>
> 1.       A message sent by Mr. Walubengo, before the discussions begun and
> I quote
>
>
> “ I just have an update from yesterday's KENIC AGM (www.kenic.or.ke) where
> the Chair, Sammy Buruchara made some clarification on the role of the
> regulator (CCK) with regards to the management of the 2nd level Kenyan domain
> name space.
>
>   While he conceded  that the Kenya Comm. Act (2009) does mandate the
> Regulator to oversee these subdomains,  the Minister had yet to issue
> regulations on how it would be done because most stakeholders have shown
> concern and reservations on that specific clause...meaning status quo
> remains where the multistakeholder, public private partnership that makes up
> KENIC still manages and oversees all levels of the .KE namespace untill
> hopefully some consensus is reached on the way forward...”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why has it taken this long for the Minister to act? Is there a
> system/process and is it underway?
>
>
>
> I would love to hear from the knowledgeable people, what effect has this
> had in the market, more especially for the Registrars.
>
>
>
> Your thoughts, inputs, corrections, are most welcome…
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> --
> “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and
> what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.”
> Kofi Annan
>
>
>
>
> --
> “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and
> what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.”
> Kofi Annan
>
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