<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">Dear Judy,</font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;">
<br><span style="color: black;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">Thank you for bringing up this debate, let me attempt to answer some of your questions based on my understanding.</font></span></p>
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<span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">Why has
it taken this long for the Minister to act? Is there a system/process and is it
underway?</font></span></p>
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<span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace"><b>I suppose the Minister needs to be advised, the question is who will advise him. Considering the fact that KENIC is a PPP, it is incumbent upon the stakeholders to advise the Minister, i wonder whether the issue was tackled at the AGM, any insights Walu or any other person who attended the agm?</b></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">I would love
to hear from the knowledgeable people, what effect has this had in the market,
more especially for the Registrars.</font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace"> <b>Well having attended the many training sessions organised by KENIC in the capacity of a registrar, i must say they are on the right track, what is lacking is cooperation from the registar community and i suppose we need to have this issue on the KEPSA agenda, Kenic has made attempts to educate the market and reach out to more people but i suppose we need to lend the organisation a hand, during ICANN i spoke to Registrars from Japan and Australia and was surprise that .jp commands 50 percent of the market share, same case for .au, during the conversation i realised that a concerted effort is required to educate the populace on why they need a CCTLD, i suppose we have focused for Long on the Policy Aspects and left out the Business aspects. all is not lost though since if the presentation that was made during the KENIC agm is anything to go by, there is a positive trend albeit at a low pace. my challenge at this point to stakeholders is ask not what our CCTLD can do for us but what we can do to ensure .ke has 50 percent market share<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">Your
thoughts, inputs, corrections, are most welcome…</font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><font face="'courier new', monospace">Kind
Regards,</font></span></p>-- <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:34 PM, waudo siganga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emailsignet@mailcan.com">emailsignet@mailcan.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: medium;" dir="ltr"><div> Hi Judy/All,</div>
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<div>Talking about KENIC (with the caveat that I unfortunately missed the AGM); but what control does KENIC actually have over its registrars e.g with the quality of hosting services????? Some of the registrars appear to want to cut corners by getting cheap but "unreliable" hosting solutions and this can adversely affect the uptake of .ke. Furthermore domain porting between registrars is a problem and I wonder what procedures KENIC has for this? For one I know that it is not possbile to port until the subscription expires and then there seems to be a very small window which appears to be the registrars secret weapon, meaning once you are stuck with a registrar it is practically impossible to escape. And last time I had a .ke domain I paid the registrar for renewal and this was never done. Eventually I seem to have lost the domain.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kind Regards,</div>
<div>Waudo</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
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<div>On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:20 +0300, "Judy Okite" <<a href="mailto:judyokite@gmail.com" target="_blank">judyokite@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div class="h5">Dear All,
<div> </div>
<div>maybe we have already switched to the 'weekend mode'....:-)...</div>
<div> </div>
<div>looking at the KENIC situation, with the equipment/infrastructure/ capacity that they have, they are way up above a registrar....so what does that make them?</div>
<div>Any knowledgeable person to give us a peek into this matter?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Secondly, the high prices of domain registration:</div>
<div> </div>
<div> <span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;">KENIC's pricing of .<a style="color: rgb(51, 102, 51);" href="http://co.ke/" target="_blank">co.ke</a> is Ksh 2000/ and that for .ac & .sc is Ksh 500/- P/A</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span><span style="border-collapse: collapse;">KENIC' s administrator ,Kiragu, mentioned during one of the sessions in the ICANN 38,Nairobi....that the prices are normally agreed and passed during KENIC's AGM.</span></span></div>
<div><span><span style="border-collapse: collapse;"><br>
</span></span></div>
<div><span><span style="border-collapse: collapse;">Was there any changes to that effect, this year?</span></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div>Querries, comments, corrections are welcomed!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Kind Regards,</div>
<div> </div>
<div><br>
<div>On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Judy Okite <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:judyokite@gmail.com" target="_blank">judyokite@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Greetings All,</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;"><span>Thank you, for all your inputs to the previous threads.</span><span><span> </span></span><span>Feel free to</span></span><span> post your belated remarks on the previous themes, by </span><span><span> </span></span><span>clicking </span><span><span> </span></span><span>on the correct subject/title.</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Today, we continue to discuss Critical Internet Resources,</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.75in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span><span>1.</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: black;"><span>DNSSEC</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.75in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span><span>2.</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: black;"><span>IPV6- the regulatory angle,</span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Yesterday,on Regulation McTim,said and I quote “</span></span><span><span style="color: black;"><span>I am of the opinion that if a person or org wants to live in a v4 world, then a nation state sholdn't preclude them from doing that. Having said that, I think it would be useful to point out that most (if not all) kit imported (new and used) is either v6 ready or with a few software changes, can be made v6 ready.</span></span><span>”</span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span style="color: black;"><span>What is your thought?</span><span><span> </span></span><span>Should we be concerned about e.g the hardware getting into our country ?</span></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span style="color: black;"><span><span> </span></span><span>And if we should, who should be in charge of that?</span></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></span><span>Reactions?</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span><span> T</span></span><span>oday , we add </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>3. .ke ccTLD management (Kenya Country Top Level Domain)</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span><span> </span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><i><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span>Kenya Network Information Center (KENIC)</span></span></i><span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span> </span></span></span><span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span>was borne through a broad based consultative process of the "Local Internet Community" with an aim to institute a local non-profit organization to manage and operate the .KE ccTLD. This was an initial step to facilitate growth of the Internet sub-sect and foster the uptake of ICT's in the country through a public private partnership (ppp's).</span></span></span><span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span> </span></span></span><a href="http://www.kenic.or.ke/" target="_blank"><span><span>www.kenic.or.ke</span></span></a><span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>KENIC has been managing the .ke , since its inception, but last year,</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><span>The Kenya Communications (Amendment) Act of 2009 mandated the Commission to provide public policy oversight on the administration and management of the dot KE country code Top Level Domain (ccTLD).</span></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span><span><a href="http://www.e-" target="_blank"><span>http://www.e-</span></a><span> </span><a href="http://government.go.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=1&Itemid=119" target="_blank"><span>government.go.ke/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=1&Itemid=119</span></a></span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span> </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.75in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span><span><span>1.</span><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></span></span></span><span>A message sent by Mr. Walubengo, before the discussions begun and I quote </span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; line-height: normal;"> </p>
<div style="text-align: left;"><span><span style="color: black;"><span>“ I just have an update from yesterday's KENIC AGM (</span></span></span><a href="http://www.kenic.or.ke/" target="_blank"><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 51);"><span>www.kenic.or.ke</span></span></a><span><span style="color: black;"><span>) where the Chair, Sammy Buruchara made some clarification on the role of the regulator (CCK) with regards to the management of the 2nd level Kenyan</span></span></span><span><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></span><span><span style="color: black;"><span>domain name</span></span></span><span><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></span><span><span style="color: black;"><span>space.</span></span></span></div>
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</span></span></div>
<span style="color: black;"> <span></span></span>
<div style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: black;"><span><span><span>While he conceded that the</span></span><span><span> </span></span><span><span>Kenya</span></span><span><span> </span></span><span><span>Comm. Act (2009) does mandate the Regulator to oversee these subdomains, the Minister had yet to issue regulations on how it would be done because most stakeholders have shown concern and reservations on that specific clause...meaning status quo remains where the multistakeholder, public private partnership that makes up KENIC still manages and oversees all levels of the .KE namespace untill hopefully some consensus is reached on the way forward...”</span></span></span></span></div>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Why has it taken this long for the Minister to act? Is there a system/process and is it underway?</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>I would love to hear from the knowledgeable people, what effect has this had in the market, more especially for the Registrars.</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Your thoughts, inputs, corrections, are most welcome…</span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span> </span></span></p>
<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 1.5in; text-align: left; line-height: normal;"><span style="color: black;"><span>Kind Regards,</span></span></p>
-- <br>
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