[kictanet] ICDL - I apologise(RESTRICTED ACCESS)

Fri Aug 6 12:46:26 EAT 2010

At some point in Kenya, ACCA was the prefered accountacy exam until CPA
(K) gained credibility.  At the rate technology changes, we need to keep
pace with the rest of the World until such a time when we shall be all
thinking from the same page.... Just a thought.

Regards

Ndemo.

> Good people,
>
> Reading Walu¹s email, seems like you are both proposing a solution to the
> ³wrong² problem. Money is not the issue, the issue is ³resistance to
> change². So I think we should solve that problem before creating another
> one. If there is resistance it means there is no ³buy-in². If there is no
> ³buy-in² it means the group that is resisting are not fully aware of the
> potential and the benefits that the proposed project has. I would propose
> a
> non-techy approach to communicate the benefits of the project to the old
> chaps, you need to address their fears and concerns  show the business
> value, continuity and the wins - otherwise they will through a spanner in
> the works even if you got money to implement...and that¹s from experience.
>
> And congratulations to all Kenyans for ushering Kenya 2.0
>
> Cheers
> Harry
>
>
> On 8/5/10 1:11 PM, "Bobby Yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Walu,
>>
>> It is good to know that there is a push to resolve this issue.
>>
>> My proposal would be to have the software developed by a private entity
>> which
>> would then do a revenue share with KASNEB whose main resistance is based
>> on a
>> fear of loosing their traditional income streams which is examination
>> fees.
>>
>> Lets look at raising angle funds for anyone who can come up with an
>> online
>> testing software that can equal or even rival the likes of smartforce,
>> ICT-Board does not have the capacity to handle such an undertaking as
>> they are
>> more of a procurement agency.
>>
>> Dr. Ndemo, we seriously need to enforce legislation otherwise all we
>> shall
>> keep loosing our edge as an outsourcing destination.  Maybe having the
>> issue
>> of ICT proficiency should be spearheaded by the Ministry of Youth who I
>> believe are now responsible for the village polytechnics.  As higher
>> education
>> has dropped the ball on this one.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Yawe
>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> Kenya
>>
>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> To: bitange at jambo.co.ke; Paul Kukubo <pkukubo at ict.go.ke>; robert yawe
>> <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Sent: Sat, 31 July, 2010 9:50:08
>> Subject: Fw:  ICDL - I apologise(RESTRICTED ACCESS)
>>
>> Ndemo, Paul, Yawe
>>
>> I do sit on a sub-committee of the KASNEB board and for the last 9mths
>> we were
>> tasked to create (replicate) a local version of ICDL.  This
>> sub-committee
>> completed its task by way of reviewing the ICDL course outlines with a
>> view to
>> including kenyan contexts. Further the sub-committee recommended the
>> creation
>> (software development) of an electronic testing platform (again along
>> the
>> lines of ICDL) where the exam is booked, administered and marked
>> electronically. Such a software would cost money, software engineering
>> skills
>> and time.
>>
>> But that is NOT the problem since I believe the "skunk-works"  can do
>> this
>> type of software if given the money and the time.  The biggest challenge
>> has
>> been what I would call (soft-resistance) from the KASNEB full-board in
>> going
>> forward with this project. Whereas the CEO (relatively ICT savvy) wants
>> to go
>> full blast with the project, the (older) members of the Board correctly
>> realise that such an electronic examination system would totally disrupt
>> their
>> existing manual examining model that they have been accustomed to over
>> the
>> last 40yrs that KASNEB has existed...(hence the resistance to change)
>>
>> And so here comes my proposal...get funding from Kenya ICT Board, get
>> software
>> engineers from skunkworks to do the electronic examination system, and
>> get
>> KASNEB to "adopt" this e-system to administer their local "ICDL" type of
>> examinations...this way we knock down the resistance to change barrier
>> from
>> the older KASNEB board members - who may actually embrace the system
>> once they
>> see a workable model....
>>
>> Furthermore, the electronic examination system would pay for itself
>> within a
>> year from the money thousands of potential students would pay to sit the
>> exam
>> (IAT has 3,000 ICDL candidates per year, MMU has about 400, not counting
>> Computer pride and others, you have a potential market of 5,000
>> candidates to
>> sit this local exam at even half the price ICDL (ksh3,500) is asking
>> for...
>>
>> any takers?
>> walu.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICDL - I apologise
>>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 3:03 PM
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>> We are still fighting the resistance from the colleges.  There must be
>>> some examining body to ensure that the sylabbus is covered and the
>>> student
>>> can make good use of the training.  Unfortunately, in this country we
>>> want
>>> to make money at the expense of our unsuspecting sisters and brothers.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like to apologise to Dr. Ndemo for giving the impression
>>>> that his
>>>> > team
>>>> > had not done their homework when they recommended that ICDL be the
>>>> > official
>>>> > computer proficiency certification.
>>>> >
>>>> > As is said it is only after you have walked in a man's shoes can you
>>>> then
>>>> > criticise him, I recently looked at a training manual from one of
>>>> the
>>>> > local
>>>> > computer colleges that was 10 pages long and covered word, excel,
>>>> > powerpoint,
>>>> > access, frontpage and IE. The exam for each subject was done after 1
>>>> day
>>>> > of
>>>> > training, in the case of word it included mailmerge.
>>>> >
>>>> > Each application was covered on less than 2 pages and the entire
>>>> course
>>>> > takes 10
>>>> > days, Dr. Ndemo the sooner you can operationalise the ICDL issue the
>>>> > sooner
>>>> > students will stop loosing money to quacks and we shall return to
>>>> the
>>>> > point of
>>>> > making computer users truly IT proficient.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >  Robert Yawe
>>>> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>>> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>>> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>>> > Kenya
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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