[kictanet] ICDL - I apologise(RESTRICTED ACCESS)

Fri Aug 6 07:41:45 EAT 2010

Good people,

Reading Walu¹s email, seems like you are both proposing a solution to the
³wrong² problem. Money is not the issue, the issue is ³resistance to
change². So I think we should solve that problem before creating another
one. If there is resistance it means there is no ³buy-in². If there is no
³buy-in² it means the group that is resisting are not fully aware of the
potential and the benefits that the proposed project has. I would propose a
non-techy approach to communicate the benefits of the project to the old
chaps, you need to address their fears and concerns  show the business
value, continuity and the wins - otherwise they will through a spanner in
the works even if you got money to implement...and that¹s from experience.

And congratulations to all Kenyans for ushering Kenya 2.0

Cheers
Harry

On 8/5/10 1:11 PM, "Bobby Yawe" <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Walu,
> 
> It is good to know that there is a push to resolve this issue.
> 
> My proposal would be to have the software developed by a private entity which
> would then do a revenue share with KASNEB whose main resistance is based on a
> fear of loosing their traditional income streams which is examination fees.
> 
> Lets look at raising angle funds for anyone who can come up with an online
> testing software that can equal or even rival the likes of smartforce,
> ICT-Board does not have the capacity to handle such an undertaking as they are
> more of a procurement agency.
> 
> Dr. Ndemo, we seriously need to enforce legislation otherwise all we shall
> keep loosing our edge as an outsourcing destination.  Maybe having the issue
> of ICT proficiency should be spearheaded by the Ministry of Youth who I
> believe are now responsible for the village polytechnics.  As higher education
> has dropped the ball on this one.
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
>  
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
> 
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> 
> 
> 
> From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> To: bitange at jambo.co.ke; Paul Kukubo <pkukubo at ict.go.ke>; robert yawe
> <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> Sent: Sat, 31 July, 2010 9:50:08
> Subject: Fw:  ICDL - I apologise(RESTRICTED ACCESS)
> 
> Ndemo, Paul, Yawe
> 
> I do sit on a sub-committee of the KASNEB board and for the last 9mths we were
> tasked to create (replicate) a local version of ICDL.  This sub-committee
> completed its task by way of reviewing the ICDL course outlines with a view to
> including kenyan contexts. Further the sub-committee recommended the creation
> (software development) of an electronic testing platform (again along the
> lines of ICDL) where the exam is booked, administered and marked
> electronically. Such a software would cost money, software engineering skills
> and time.
> 
> But that is NOT the problem since I believe the "skunk-works"  can do this
> type of software if given the money and the time.  The biggest challenge has
> been what I would call (soft-resistance) from the KASNEB full-board in going
> forward with this project. Whereas the CEO (relatively ICT savvy) wants to go
> full blast with the project, the (older) members of the Board correctly
> realise that such an electronic examination system would totally disrupt their
> existing manual examining model that they have been accustomed to over the
> last 40yrs that KASNEB has existed...(hence the resistance to change)
> 
> And so here comes my proposal...get funding from Kenya ICT Board, get software
> engineers from skunkworks to do the electronic examination system, and get
> KASNEB to "adopt" this e-system to administer their local "ICDL" type of
> examinations...this way we knock down the resistance to change barrier from
> the older KASNEB board members - who may actually embrace the system once they
> see a workable model....
> 
> Furthermore, the electronic examination system would pay for itself within a
> year from the money thousands of potential students would pay to sit the exam
> (IAT has 3,000 ICDL candidates per year, MMU has about 400, not counting
> Computer pride and others, you have a potential market of 5,000 candidates to
> sit this local exam at even half the price ICDL (ksh3,500) is asking for...
> 
> any takers?
> walu.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>> 
>> From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICDL - I apologise
>> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Date: Friday, July 30, 2010, 3:03 PM
>> 
>> Robert,
>> We are still fighting the resistance from the colleges.  There must be
>> some examining body to ensure that the sylabbus is covered and the student
>> can make good use of the training.  Unfortunately, in this country we want
>> to make money at the expense of our unsuspecting sisters and brothers.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Ndemo.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I would like to apologise to Dr. Ndemo for giving the impression that his
>>> > team
>>> > had not done their homework when they recommended that ICDL be the
>>> > official
>>> > computer proficiency certification.
>>> >
>>> > As is said it is only after you have walked in a man's shoes can you then
>>> > criticise him, I recently looked at a training manual from one of the
>>> > local
>>> > computer colleges that was 10 pages long and covered word, excel,
>>> > powerpoint,
>>> > access, frontpage and IE. The exam for each subject was done after 1 day
>>> > of
>>> > training, in the case of word it included mailmerge.
>>> >
>>> > Each application was covered on less than 2 pages and the entire course
>>> > takes 10
>>> > days, Dr. Ndemo the sooner you can operationalise the ICDL issue the
>>> > sooner
>>> > students will stop loosing money to quacks and we shall return to the
>>> > point of
>>> > making computer users truly IT proficient.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >  Robert Yawe
>>> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> > Kenya
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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