[kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced

Fri Apr 16 12:17:19 EAT 2010

Well, to fence or not to fence, maybe we shouild shift the debate to
the services that will be offered to see wether they might warrant
fencing, Akich i totally disagree with you, even public hospitals are
fenced though they offer cost effective services to Mwananchi, i am
not convinced by that argument, maybe i am wrong, we should endeavour
to pomote and protect investors property whether local or
international, there needs to be a deliberate strategy on how the
local community will benefit from the project, otherwise we might have
another scenario similar to Niger Delta, forgive me for using that
extreme example, Business is not charity, but business can support
charity

I await your response

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Fencing - not sure how helpful that would be. Markers for the area would be
> useful. The place I think just needs to be demarcated and fencing can be
> done on individual locations.
> Dubai's internet, media cities etc are not fenced.
> Would anyone have GPS co-ordinates for the place, or a location on google
> maps?
> Regards,
> --
> Josiah Mugambi
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Thomas Kibui <thomas.kibui at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I think fencing is a start because eventually after we put up expensive
>> equipment and data there .. they need to be protected. Likewise any
>> construction taking place will require protection from thieves and
>> constructors protected from wild animals.
>>
>> The "wired convention" is a very good idea but it will need to be
>> protected for us to hold a brainstorm  there. Personally, I don't think I
>> can brainstorm effectively when lions are roaming free in the convention...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 April 2010 19:56, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I need to seriously understand the rational behind fencing 5,000 acres of
>>> land unless PS Ndemo has decided to effect his threat to turn the plot into
>>> a cattle holding ground because of the bickering by the politicians from the
>>> area and that the park is officially moved to Thika.
>>> Fencing is a barbaric way of demarcation, its similar to having ones wife
>>> or daughters wear a chastity belt, you utilise institutions to secure land
>>> rights or any other rights and not physical barriers.
>>> I believe the government could find better use of the money, the rest is
>>> wastage of the taxes, the same amount could be used to setup a wired
>>> convention centre where we could go to brainstorm the future of the park and
>>> also to indicate to prospective local and foreign investors (in that order)
>>> that we have begun the journey.  Even the Minister for Lands, Hon. Orengo,
>>> clear indicated that the fencing of a plot and the sinking of a pit latrine
>>> does not constitute development.
>>> Fencing Malili does not constitute development, so lets make better use
>>> of those funds.
>>> REgards
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Pamela <pamela at cardiacimplants.com>
>>> To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Sent: Tue, 13 April, 2010 10:46:25
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced
>>>
>>> Land encroachment, private developers, squatters, IDPs etc, land unlike
>>> in countries like Egypt and Silicone valley is a very emotive subject, a
>>> clear demarcation (although expensive) is a wise thing to do. Otherwise
>>> tomorrow, we will have squatters claiming haki yao on malili technopolis.
>>> Being fenced to keep land grabbers away!!
>>>
>>> Pamela
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: kictanet-bounces+pamela=cardiacimplants.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>>> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+pamela=cardiacimplants.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
>>> Behalf Of robert yawe
>>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 6:48 PM
>>> To: pamela at cardiacimplants.com
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fencing 5,000 acres of land, we might as well fence the CBD, please note
>>> that the one in Egypt is 600 acres and Egypt is a very different place from
>>> Kenya they have the brotherhood who will blow up anything just because
>>> someone sneezed in a way to suggest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Silicon valley is not fenced, just because we fenced the Aberdare forest
>>> does not justify fencing every inch of the country.  Have we thought of the
>>> cost of doing this and of what benefit will it be to the development of
>>> Kenya as a technology destination?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also note that the parks are being fenced to keep the animals in, mmmmm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS.  Just thought it might to of interest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Yawe
>>> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> Kenya
>>>
>>> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>> To: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Sent: Fri, 9 April, 2010 12:47:25
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] FYI - Malili to be fenced
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> That is Private Property, i suppose that is the right thing to do, i
>>> am sure we are going to have Mini Malilis in Malili, it is good to
>>> distinguish them. I havent been to the smart village in Egypt but i
>>> had a chance to look at the dummy and noticed it was controled, i
>>> guess that is the standard take a look at
>>> http://www.smart-villages.com/docs/cairo.aspx.
>>> Unless i didnt understand your query
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:57 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Listers,
>>> > I have just found out that the Technology Park in Malili is to be
>>> > fenced,
>>> > interesting
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Robert Yawe
>>> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>>> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>>> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>>> > Kenya
>>> >
>>> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>>> >
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