[kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
Harry Delano
harry at comtelsys.co.ke
Thu Apr 8 15:07:55 EAT 2010
Thanks Gilda,
If you'd allow me, then let me kindly ask some direct questions on your
taskforce..
Have you a name for the Taskforce..?
What is the mandate of this Taskforce and who is it accountable to...?
What are it's objectives, on the wider ICT Landscape, and it's goals..?
How is participation on the TF arrived at...?
How can the larger community of stakeholders in the industry interact more
with it...?
Regards,
Harry
-----Original Message-----
From: godera at skyweb.co.ke [mailto:godera at skyweb.co.ke]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 1:54 PM
To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
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Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
Correct Harry.
Quoting Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>:
>
> Thanks a lot, Gilda, for this feedback.
>
> Listers, I suppose the floor is open, to ask all the queries, on this
> [Taskforce], I suppose Gilda...?
>
> Especially on the mandate, and how to interact with it. I believe this
> could be one of the avenues offered to make voices heard, and drive
> agenda forward..
>
> Views please..
>
> Harry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke [mailto:godera at skyweb.co.ke]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:32 PM
> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
>
> Hi,
>
> They are:
>
> 1. Gilda Odera (Chair)
> 2. Sammy Burachara
> 3. Nik Nesbitt
> 4. Victor Kyalo (Joint Secretary)
> 5. Peres Were (Joint Secretary)
> 6. Dickson Ogola (Secretariat)
> Headed by Sylvester Kasuku, Infrastructure Advisor at the OPM.
>
> The team is mandated to form committees (I prefer to call them working
> teams), to come up with the required strategies/advise/recommendations
> for various issues in the sector. These committees will be formed by
> persons from both private and public sector.
> Those with strengths in various capacities will be called upon to
> drive the committees. The committees are as wide/narrow as required.
> The team is to ensure that the silo way of operation is set aside
> through mechanisms to be put in place by way of actionable
recommendations.
>
> Best,
>
> Gilda
>
>
>
> Quoting Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>:
>
> >
> > Hey Gilda,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for these positive comments,
> >
> > Apparently, I suppose we need to be exposed to all these good teams,
> > being put up out there, so that we can interact, and all these good
> > suggestions and comments presented..
> >
> > Maybe for a starter, can you please unveil/unmask this "six"
> > man/women team
> > - so that we can
> > know them..?
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> > On Behalf Of godera at skyweb.co.ke
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:39 AM
> > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> >
> >
> > Listers,
> >
> > I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry.
> > Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their
> > mandate, in my view, what is most important is that each respective
> > body plays it part to the full and possibly even surpass the
> > expectations
> of the industry.
> > As long as they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the
> > ICT Hub in Africa)in all their activities, the industry will have
gained.
> > What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other,
> > rather complement one another to grow this industry.
> > We must all work together for good of this industry and nation.
> >
> > Gilda Odera
> > Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister
> >
> > (For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and
> > Government was recently put together for a two year term to advise
> > on all these issues
> > being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.)
> >
> > Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri at andestbites.com>:
> >
> > > Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a
> > > feeling that with time, whatever body will be formed will still
> > > face the same attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate
> > > etc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in
> > > the direction ICT development in Kenya should follow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
> > > kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.
> > > ke
> > > ] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> > > To: emuchiri at andestbites.com
> > > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lilian,
> > >
> > >
> > > This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these
> > > resourceful discussions coming in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies
> > > existing, happen to work within some form of
> > >
> > > mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the
> > > mandates are competing mandates or
> > >
> > > a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a
> > > huge phenomenon, that cuts' out across
> > >
> > > the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM. This
> > > means, stakeholders from other
> > >
> > > Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to
> > > which, each of the Govt agencies can have a
> > >
> > > representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all
> > > sectors, private , and govt. All interests
> > >
> > > should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for
> > > purposes of accountability and
> > >
> > > transparency..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF)
> > > * National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK)
> > > * National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB)
> > >
> > > Other names are welcome..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Harry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.k
> > > e]
> > > On Behalf Of Lilian Karanja
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM
> > > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, Robert.......I see.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance
> > > you do not produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in
> > > the context of the management of ICT crafts a clear framework in
> > > which decisions are made, who makes the decisions about business
> > > and technology developments, who has input into the
> > > decision-making process
> > and how the decisions are formed".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the
> > > Directorate of e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under
> > > Min. Of Finance), and both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of
> > > Info
> > > Comm) seem to have related ICT goals and objectives. They
> > > (unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate in their
> > > decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like SITA/RITA.
> > > Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up
> > > into a KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not
> > > 'mature' into the
> > institution envisioned.
> > >
> > > GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on:
> > >
> > > . Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT
> > within
> > > GoK
> > >
> > > . How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to
> > improve
> > > services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc
> > >
> > > . How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the
country
> > at
> > > large
> > >
> > > . The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what
> > > mechanism and how resources are to be managed)
> > >
> > > . The way investments are to be made and policies on
realising
> > and
> > > sharing benefits
> > >
> > > . How the required skills are to be procured (through
strategic
> > > partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc)
> > >
> > > . The principles that underlie the ICT architecture
> > >
> > > . Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT
> > > investment programmes
> > >
> > > . Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core
> > > elements of the infrastructure:
> > >
> > > o Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional
> development
> > > and where certain skills should reside
> > >
> > > o Methods and techniques - what project/programme management,
> > development
> > > and operations management standards should be used
> > >
> > > o Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance
management)
>
> > >
> > > o Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of
> information
> >
> > >
> > > o Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll,
registries
> > and
> > > personnel standards, etc
> > >
> > > o Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards
> > >
> > > o Security
> > >
> > > o Legal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We
> > > look to GoK greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add
value'
> > > to broadband so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation
> > > towards the use ICTs and the Internet increases (especially in the
> > > rural areas, as they access Government e-Services), thus creating
> > > an Internet Community and an IT culture. Am not sure we
> > > necessarily need support from outside to do this, even donor funds
> > > (we don't need). We can do it on our own, as we (Kenya) are, now,
> > > known to be an emerging knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to
> > > create a Kenyan way 'working with'and using ICT. We have so many
> > > Youth (any way), who are jobless! Lets purposefully develop
> > > capacity of these young and use them
> > sufficiently.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LILIAN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> > > Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > > To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM
> > >
> > > Hi Lilian,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best
> > > trained ICT fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted
> > > with them for over 10 years. Do not be deceived by the fact that
> > > they are no fancy websites or iphone applications the men and
> > > women who keep the government systems running are basically miracle
workers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they
> > > need is a capacity building what they need like all with the other
> > > areas of government is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS.
> > > Hon Raila has definitely moved government efficiency a notch
> > > higher and without a "dream team" or expatriate consultants all he
> > > did was dust off the
> > diamonds within.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you
> > > for
> > > 2 hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work,
> > > if you are unable to find something profitable to do with the
> > > balance 6 hours then that is your problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT
> > > or BPO whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to
"desilo"
> > > (term coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the
> > > government activities.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your
> > > selves, I know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that
> > > next time I need to put the record strait on your behalf I will
> > > actually name
> > names.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Yawe
> > > KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > > Kenya
> > >
> > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear PS:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues
> > > discussed in this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you,
> > > and others in Government and also in the private sector who are so
> > > passionate about the use of ICTs and the Internet to create
> > > opportunities for all, in Kenya, and see that ICT remains a
> > > reliable vehicle for economic growth and development. So, please
> > > don't stop listening to us, patiently and we beseech you to
> > > continue in your wisdom
> in dealing with these matters.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is
> > > it a myth or reality?' have raised important questions that should
> > > be addressed with 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have
> > > noted, a town hall meeting is good and always welcome. However,
> > > moving forward, it needs to be clear how ICT Board interacts with
> > > Government and how it promotes the existence of an Institutional
> > > Framework for ICT management in Government. Clearly, the ICT Board
> > > manages of a huge chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya,
> > > eGovernment and the likes (through the KTCIP), but still the
> > > Government lags behind in their
> > ICT technical know-how and skills.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building
> > > (Providing GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and
> > > funding for anchor implementation of ICT projects for development)
> > > over time we have only seen laxity in the management of ICT by
> > > Government i.e. poor websites, unsatisfactory performance of
> > > legacy systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address management, meagre
> > > IT Security (web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E of ICT &
> > > eGovt, etc. But may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the
> > > Government Officers who manage IT issues in Government are not
> > > continuously trained in all
> > pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that
> > > part of their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have
> > > Government Officers who cannot do much to use broadband properly
> > > and strategically as well as make eGovernment a reality. The
> > > cabilities of these Officers should be close to, if not better
> > > than those in the private sector. And when GoK finally has real
> > > experts and engineers in ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted
> > > to keep them and recompense them accordingly. This is the future
> > > of Government IT, 'people who are
> > knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LILIAN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM
> > >
> > > Barrack,
> > > Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will
> > > be wise if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we
> > > had on
> > Malili.
> > > Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create
> > > these agencies without putting some thought to it. Criticisms are
> > > good only when you point out where there are gaps.
> > >
> > > The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one
> > > person did respond. What it means then is that this forum ni ya
> > kuchongoana tu.
> > > Which really is unfortunate. I have four other policy proposals
> > > that I really think should push through then arouse sufficient
> > > interest from the membership here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ndemo.
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this
> > > > questions are very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can
> > > > someone provide us with a list of all agencies involved in ICTs
> > > > and ICT4D so that we can do some tooth comb analysis, i saw a
> > > > post from Paul on what the board has achieved early this year,
> > > > that was very much in order we need something from NCS as well plus
any other agencies.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga
> > > > <volunga at yahoo.com
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> >
> wrote:
> > > >> There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait.
> > > >> What is the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the
> > > >> two bodies relate with respect to advisory services to the
> > > >> governement on ICT matters?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Vitalis
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.
> > > uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> To: volunga at yahoo.com
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com>
> > > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
> > > or.ke>
> > > >
> > > >> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try
> > > >> reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do
> > > >> anything and everything under the sun that could be called ICT
> > > >> which includes your microwave oven and copier.
> > > >> Functions of Kenya ICT Board
> > > >> The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the
> > > >> Kenya Gazette Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007:
> > > >> . To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining
> > > >> to development, coordination (remember the PM post) and
> > > >> promotion of ICT industries in the country.
> > > >> . Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities
> > > >> for investments in ICT technology . Facilitate and manage ICT
> > > >> industrial incubation parks and technology parks together with
> > > >> associated facilities on sites, estates and land.
> > > >> . Partner with agents within and without the country to carry
> > > >> out such functions as it may consider necessary.
> > > >> . To transform and empower society through deployment and use
> > > >> of
> ICTs.
> > > >> . Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT
> > > >> products and services.
> > > >> Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you
> > > >> guessed it I still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi.
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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