[kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
godera at skyweb.co.ke
godera at skyweb.co.ke
Thu Apr 8 13:54:03 EAT 2010
Correct Harry.
Quoting Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>:
>
> Thanks a lot, Gilda, for this feedback.
>
> Listers, I suppose the floor is open, to ask all the queries, on this
> [Taskforce], I suppose Gilda...?
>
> Especially on the mandate, and how to interact with it. I believe this could
> be one of the avenues
> offered to make voices heard, and drive agenda forward..
>
> Views please..
>
> Harry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: godera at skyweb.co.ke [mailto:godera at skyweb.co.ke]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 4:32 PM
> To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
>
> Hi,
>
> They are:
>
> 1. Gilda Odera (Chair)
> 2. Sammy Burachara
> 3. Nik Nesbitt
> 4. Victor Kyalo (Joint Secretary)
> 5. Peres Were (Joint Secretary)
> 6. Dickson Ogola (Secretariat)
> Headed by Sylvester Kasuku, Infrastructure Advisor at the OPM.
>
> The team is mandated to form committees (I prefer to call them working
> teams), to come up with the required strategies/advise/recommendations for
> various issues in the sector. These committees will be formed by persons
> from both private and public sector.
> Those with strengths in various capacities will be called upon to drive the
> committees. The committees are as wide/narrow as required.
> The team is to ensure that the silo way of operation is set aside through
> mechanisms to be put in place by way of actionable recommendations.
>
> Best,
>
> Gilda
>
>
>
> Quoting Harry Delano <harry at comtelsys.co.ke>:
>
> >
> > Hey Gilda,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for these positive comments,
> >
> > Apparently, I suppose we need to be exposed to all these good teams,
> > being put up out there, so that we can interact, and all these good
> > suggestions and comments presented..
> >
> > Maybe for a starter, can you please unveil/unmask this "six" man/women
> > team
> > - so that we can
> > know them..?
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> > On Behalf Of godera at skyweb.co.ke
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:39 AM
> > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> >
> >
> > Listers,
> >
> > I think this is a very healthy debate for the industry.
> > Esther, whereas whatever body will face the same queries over their
> > mandate, in my view, what is most important is that each respective
> > body plays it part to the full and possibly even surpass the expectations
> of the industry.
> > As long as they are all forging towards one goal (making Kenya the ICT
> > Hub in Africa)in all their activities, the industry will have gained.
> > What is important is that all these bodies do not fight each other,
> > rather complement one another to grow this industry.
> > We must all work together for good of this industry and nation.
> >
> > Gilda Odera
> > Chair, BPO/ITES Working Group at the Office of the Prime Minister
> >
> > (For those not aware, a group of 6 persons from Private Sector and
> > Government was recently put together for a two year term to advise on
> > all these issues
> > being raised in this list. Your views are being noted.)
> >
> > Quoting Esther Muchiri <emuchiri at andestbites.com>:
> >
> > > Good suggestions Harry, but while I am not a pessimist, I have a
> > > feeling that with time, whatever body will be formed will still face
> > > the same attacks/questions from the industry on the mandate etc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps the upcoming public forum will begin to shed some light in
> > > the direction ICT development in Kenya should follow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+emuchiri=andestbites.com at lists.kictanet.or.
> > > ke
> > > ] On Behalf Of Harry Delano
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:21 PM
> > > To: emuchiri at andestbites.com
> > > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions'
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lilian,
> > >
> > >
> > > This is so comprehensive.. Hope, notes are being taken from these
> > > resourceful discussions coming in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mine, is just a proposal. Clearly, the different agencies existing,
> > > happen to work within some form of
> > >
> > > mandate in their own areas of jurisdiction or so, whether the
> > > mandates are competing mandates or
> > >
> > > a duplication, it may be quite difficult to just "merge" them..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clearly, Listers - one thing that is now clear, is that ICT is a
> > > huge phenomenon, that cuts' out across
> > >
> > > the entire spectrum of Govt and ministries - beyond INFOCOM. This
> > > means, stakeholders from other
> > >
> > > Govt. sectors need to be brought into the fold to harmonize strategy..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I suppose therefore, this may call for an oversight body - to which,
> > > each of the Govt agencies can have a
> > >
> > > representation. This oversight, could encompass reps, from all
> > > sectors, private , and govt. All interests
> > >
> > > should be declared as a pre-requisite to serving on this panel for
> > > purposes of accountability and
> > >
> > > transparency..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If in order, I could float some names for such a body, such as:-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > * National ICT Task Force - (NICTAF)
> > > * National ICT Agency of Kenya - (NICTAK)
> > > * National ICT Oversight Board -(NICTOB)
> > >
> > > Other names are welcome..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Harry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > [mailto:kictanet-bounces+harry=comtelsys.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> > > On Behalf Of Lilian Karanja
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:43 AM
> > > To: harry at comtelsys.co.ke
> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, Robert.......I see.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Certainly, what GoK needs is ICT Governance. "Without governance you
> > > do not produce good decisions consistently. 'Governance' in the
> > > context of the management of ICT crafts a clear framework in which
> > > decisions are made, who makes the decisions about business and
> > > technology developments, who has input into the decision-making
> > > process
> > and how the decisions are formed".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the ICT Board (under Min. Of Info Comm), the
> > > Directorate of e-Government (under OP), the GITS Department (under
> > > Min. Of Finance), and both the CCK and NCS (both under Min. Of Info
> > > Comm) seem to have related ICT goals and objectives. They
> > > (unfortunately) don't seem to oftenly collaborate in their
> > > decision-making. I personally like the idea of a KITA like SITA/RITA.
> > > Sometime ago, the Directorate of e-Government seemed to come-up into
> > > a KITA (in the way we think of SITA/RITA), but did not 'mature' into
> > > the
> > institution envisioned.
> > >
> > > GoK ICT Governance Decisions would ideally focus on:
> > >
> > > . Determining the strategic approach to e-government and ICT
> > within
> > > GoK
> > >
> > > . How the e-government initiatives should be used in GoK, to
> > improve
> > > services, reduce costs, develop the community, etc
> > >
> > > . How fundamental e-government and ICT is to GoK and the country
> > at
> > > large
> > >
> > > . The way e-government and ICT is to be managed (e.g. by what
> > > mechanism and how resources are to be managed)
> > >
> > > . The way investments are to be made and policies on realising
> > and
> > > sharing benefits
> > >
> > > . How the required skills are to be procured (through strategic
> > > partnerships, in-house, through consortium, etc)
> > >
> > > . The principles that underlie the ICT architecture
> > >
> > > . Setting priorities and determining e-government and ICT
> > > investment programmes
> > >
> > > . Managing the foundations and regulations regarding the core
> > > elements of the infrastructure:
> > >
> > > o Personnel - who will be responsible for their professional
> development
> > > and where certain skills should reside
> > >
> > > o Methods and techniques - what project/programme management,
> > development
> > > and operations management standards should be used
> > >
> > > o Charging mechanisms and services standards (performance management)
>
> > >
> > > o Information - standards to enable the effective sharing of
> information
> >
> > >
> > > o Core applications - intranet, finance systems, payroll, registries
> > and
> > > personnel standards, etc
> > >
> > > o Technical - network, consolidated service desk, data standards
> > >
> > > o Security
> > >
> > > o Legal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This has conspicuously missed within GoK, in the past years. We look
> > > to GoK greatly to spur 'mwananchi' by keenly committing to 'add value'
> > > to broadband so that their attitude, confidence and appreciation
> > > towards the use ICTs and the Internet increases (especially in the
> > > rural areas, as they access Government e-Services), thus creating an
> > > Internet Community and an IT culture. Am not sure we necessarily
> > > need support from outside to do this, even donor funds (we don't
> > > need). We can do it on our own, as we (Kenya) are, now, known to be
> > > an emerging knowledge economy. GoK can lead the way to create a
> > > Kenyan way 'working with'and using ICT. We have so many Youth (any
> > > way), who are jobless! Lets purposefully develop capacity of these
> > > young and use them
> > sufficiently.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I rest my case, and I apologise for any misunderstandings.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LILIAN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 4/6/10, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> > > Subject: Who is ICT Board? - Capacity Building
> > > To: "Lilian Karanja" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:32 AM
> > >
> > > Hi Lilian,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just wanted to clarify an issue, government has some of the best
> > > trained ICT fellows and I know because I have regularly interacted
> > > with them for over 10 years. Do not be deceived by the fact that
> > > they are no fancy websites or iphone applications the men and women
> > > who keep the government systems running are basically miracle workers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How they do it is beyond my comprehension and the last thin they
> > > need is a capacity building what they need like all with the other
> > > areas of government is a co-ordinator or a Deputy Prime Minister IS.
> > > Hon Raila has definitely moved government efficiency a notch higher
> > > and without a "dream team" or expatriate consultants all he did was
> > > dust off the
> > diamonds within.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Government has a beautiful retention strategy which is we pay you
> > > for
> > > 2 hours a day and we expect you to only deliver the paid for work,
> > > if you are unable to find something profitable to do with the
> > > balance 6 hours then that is your problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What we need is a deputy prime minister information systems or ICT
> > > or BPO whatever the name of which KICTB has proven not to be to "desilo"
> > > (term coined by Dr. Ndemo during the PM Round table meeting) the
> > > government activities.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you government ICT gurus stick your heads out and defend your
> > > selves, I know many of you are on this listing, so be warned that
> > > next time I need to put the record strait on your behalf I will
> > > actually name
> > names.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Yawe
> > > KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > > Kenya
> > >
> > > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Lilian Karanja <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > To: robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Sent: Mon, 5 April, 2010 16:58:41
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear PS:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is a little discouraging to hear you say that the issues
> > > discussed in this topic are 'kuchongoana tu'. We look up to you, and
> > > others in Government and also in the private sector who are so
> > > passionate about the use of ICTs and the Internet to create
> > > opportunities for all, in Kenya, and see that ICT remains a reliable
> > > vehicle for economic growth and development. So, please don't stop
> > > listening to us, patiently and we beseech you to continue in your wisdom
> in dealing with these matters.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This topic, 'Who is ICT Board?' as well as that of 'eGovernment is
> > > it a myth or reality?' have raised important questions that should
> > > be addressed with 'a big heart' and an open mind. As you have noted,
> > > a town hall meeting is good and always welcome. However, moving
> > > forward, it needs to be clear how ICT Board interacts with
> > > Government and how it promotes the existence of an Institutional
> > > Framework for ICT management in Government. Clearly, the ICT Board
> > > manages of a huge chunk of donor funds for ICT growth in Kenya,
> > > eGovernment and the likes (through the KTCIP), but still the
> > > Government lags behind in their
> > ICT technical know-how and skills.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While one of their mandate (the ICT Board) is Capacity Building
> > > (Providing GoK and other stakeholders with skills, capacity and
> > > funding for anchor implementation of ICT projects for development)
> > > over time we have only seen laxity in the management of ICT by
> > > Government i.e. poor websites, unsatisfactory performance of legacy
> > > systems, inconsistent DNS & IP address management, meagre IT
> > > Security (web, network, etc), little or no R&D and M&E of ICT &
> > > eGovt, etc. But may be it is not deliberate laxity, it is that the
> > > Government Officers who manage IT issues in Government are not
> > > continuously trained in all
> > pertinent areas to raise experts and skillful personnel.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hope this is an area ICT Board can address, when they say that
> > > part of their mandate is Capacity Building, otherwise we have
> > > Government Officers who cannot do much to use broadband properly and
> > > strategically as well as make eGovernment a reality. The cabilities
> > > of these Officers should be close to, if not better than those in
> > > the private sector. And when GoK finally has real experts and
> > > engineers in ICT, a retention strategy MUST be adopted to keep them
> > > and recompense them accordingly. This is the future of Government
> > > IT, 'people who are
> > knowledgeable and focused on a bright future'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > LILIAN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 4/4/10, bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: bitange at jambo.co.ke <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
> > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > To: "Lilian" <l_wkaranja at yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
> > > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > > Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 9:42 AM
> > >
> > > Barrack,
> > > Several posts have come by on the role of ICT and I think it will be
> > > wise if we sorted this in a town hall meeting similar to one we had
> > > on
> > Malili.
> > > Honestly it feels as though some Neanderthal decided to create these
> > > agencies without putting some thought to it. Criticisms are good
> > > only when you point out where there are gaps.
> > >
> > > The other day I posted a policy proposal for comments but only one
> > > person did respond. What it means then is that this forum ni ya
> > kuchongoana tu.
> > > Which really is unfortunate. I have four other policy proposals
> > > that I really think should push through then arouse sufficient
> > > interest from the membership here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ndemo.
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is truly "Jicho Pevu", i think some answers to this questions
> > > > are very much in order as we celebrate Easter, can someone provide
> > > > us with a list of all agencies involved in ICTs and ICT4D so that
> > > > we can do some tooth comb analysis, i saw a post from Paul on
> > > > what the board has achieved early this year, that was very much in
> > > > order we need something from NCS as well plus any other agencies.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Vitalis Olunga <volunga at yahoo.com
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com> >
> wrote:
> > > >> There is also another body , National Communications Secretarait.
> > > >> What is the diffrence between NCS and ICT Baord and how do the
> > > >> two bodies relate with respect to advisory services to the
> > > >> governement on ICT matters?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Vitalis
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> To: volunga at yahoo.com
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=volunga@yahoo.com>
> > > >> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > > >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > > <http://us.mc452.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kictanet@lists.kictanet.
> > > or.ke>
> > > >
> > > >> Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 12:03:22 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Who is ICT Board? Hijacked
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> I rest my case on this issue, the ICT Board is a monolith, Try
> > > >> reading this... (pdf file), as I feared it is mandated to do
> > > >> anything and everything under the sun that could be called ICT
> > > >> which includes your microwave oven and copier.
> > > >> Functions of Kenya ICT Board
> > > >> The core functions of Kenya ICT Board as documented in the Kenya
> > > >> Gazette Legal Notice No 26 of the May 2007:
> > > >> . To advice the government on all relevant matters pertaining to
> > > >> development, coordination (remember the PM post) and promotion
> > > >> of ICT industries in the country.
> > > >> . Promote both locally and internationally the opportunities for
> > > >> investments in ICT technology . Facilitate and manage ICT
> > > >> industrial incubation parks and technology parks together with
> > > >> associated facilities on sites, estates and land.
> > > >> . Partner with agents within and without the country to carry
> > > >> out such functions as it may consider necessary.
> > > >> . To transform and empower society through deployment and use of
> ICTs.
> > > >> . Carry out any other activity to promote and develop ICT
> > > >> products and services.
> > > >> Have a restful Easter as we await the limited range 4G, yes you
> > > >> guessed it I still have a 3G issue and I am in Nairobi.
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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