[kictanet] IG Discussions- Day 2 of 10: Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables

[Brian Munyao Longwe]

Hi Bill,

I look forward to taking you up on the offer of kaluvu, but remember,
TEAMS will never sell bandwidth directly to the market. It's the
shareholders who will bring the stuff to the market. If 1mb is not
available for less than 400usd wholesale, and less than 200 retail
then the kaluvu is on me!

Mblayo

On 4/28/09, Bildad Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In my opinion,
> 1. [For profit - Seacom] sounds like a brilliant business model.
> 2. [Means-to-an-end - TEAMS]: I have done a bit of economics upto Uni
> level and finally...the only economic model they did not teach at UoN
> (established by an Act of Parliament).
>
> Sounds like Teams has already waged a price war with no products in
> the market yet.
> I can bet Brian for free that if Teams is cheaper (reasonably) than
> Seacom, then 'kalubu' on me...that day.
>
> Walu - Kalubu is local content (fermented not digitized - but u can
> also say - shaken not stirred) that we partake responsibly during
> those kilelembe nights.
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote:
>
>> Hi john,
>>
>> Well, I had opted not to comment on this, but since you asked....
>>
>> There are a number of different ways to go about major
>> infrastructure development:
>> 1) For-Profit: Put together a business case with a clear Return-On-
>> Investment (ROI) benefit; go out and find the money, then build and
>> deploy - hopefully the market will respond well and the investors
>> get their return (e.g. SEACOM)
>> 2) Means-to-an-end: Determine the total costs for the project, go to
>> the primary stakeholders; Oil companies in the case of oil
>> pipelines, gas companies in the case of gas companies, operators &
>> ISPs in the case of bandwidth; sell them the concept of delivering
>> the commodity to themselves at cost (or as near to cost as
>> possible); set up an "Operations & Maintenance" structure which
>> levies the same parties; build and deploy; once the bandwidth is
>> delivered it's a "free-for-all" in the marketplace - with COSTS at a
>> very low level, prices will evenetually follow due to competition
>> (e.g. TEAMs and EASSY)
>>
>> This is one of the main reasons why projects such as TEAMs and EASSY
>> have faced stiff opposition, criticism and outright attempted
>> sabotage - because they have the potential to cut the feet out from
>> under any similar commercial venture.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:22 PM, John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanx Sam, Victor, Brian, Faima, Mwende & Bill for your quick
>> contributions...am sure there are more insights out there. Plse
>> share using easily understandable wordings for the benefit of our
>> international Listers...
>>
>> >>Bill, - "Bubudiu mbovu" - when I was growing up, this used to mean
>> "misleading propaganda" was that your intepretation of the "TEAMS
>> project not aiming to make money out of the cable" comment from Brian?
>>
>> walu.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Bildad Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Bildad Kagai <billkagai at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] IG Discussions- Day 2 of 10:
>> Infrastructure Issues-Submarine Cables
>> > To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>> > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> > Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 1:28 PM
>> > On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote:
>> >
>> > > Don't forget that TEAMs is a
>> > 'developmental' cable system i.e. it's investors
>> > are not aiming to make any money out of the cable itself
>> >
>> > Bubudiu mbovu.
>> >
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