[kictanet] [Skunkworks] Big Bang Replay

Wed Sep 17 19:30:52 EAT 2008

>> importantly the confirmation of the special theory of relativity.
>
> Should be general relativity, which  is the basis of current
> cosmological models of an expanding universe.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:32 PM, David Otwoma <otwomad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> If you are to be a good physicist you have to stop believing in the
>> hoax of a 'godly' being. Only then can you make plausible assumptions
>> and use them to test a hypothesis.
>>
>> That experiment is not only about the big bang theory but more
>> importantly the confirmation of the special theory of relativity.
>>
>> Keep hallucinations (beliefs in mortal/immortal beings) and observe
>> either from existentialist or matter principle. The answers are
>> staring you in the face. Just be a little bit innovative.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Mike Bullut <mike.bullut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> David et al.,
>>>
>>> If I may ask you: What is the significance of research? Or more deeply:
>>> What
>>> is the purpose of meaning? I'll leave you to answer the latter question
>>> for
>>> yourselves. I'm a staunch advocate of research for the reason being
>>> most of
>>> mankind's greatest advancements wouldn't have seen the light of day if
>>> a
>>> certain man/woman hadn't taken the initiative to investigate better
>>> ways on
>>> how to execute certain/everyday tasks.
>>>
>>> Here are a few of them:
>>>
>>> Alexander Graham Bell & his invention of the telephone. [Communication]
>>> Alexander Flemming & his discovery of penicillin. [Medicine]
>>> Thomas Edison & his invention of the electric bulb. [Engineering?]
>>>
>>> In the advancement of knowledge:
>>>
>>> Albert Einstein & his theory of relativity. [Physics]
>>> Alfred Wegner & his theory of continental drift. [Geology, Geography]
>>> Charles Darwin & his theory of evolution. [Biology]
>>> Nicolaus Copernicus & his theory of heliocentric cosmology. [Astronomy]
>>>
>>> Onto the subject of the experiments being conducted at the Large Hadron
>>> Collider situated at CERN, their raison d'être is to scrutinize The Big
>>> Bang
>>> Theory. One of science's (& life's) greatest mysteries is the origin of
>>> everything (the universe, life itself etc). There are two schools of
>>> thought
>>> that try to illustrate this: Religion & Science. The former explains
>>> that
>>> the universe was created by a supreme being, God, at the beginning of
>>> time &
>>> took six days with our Heavenly Father resting on the seventh day. The
>>> latter explains that the universe was created in a cataclysmic
>>> explosion
>>> originating from the most infinitesimal particle of matter which has
>>> expanded (over the course of fifteen billion years & counting) to what
>>> we
>>> observe today through telescopes. Of course, these schools of thought
>>> have
>>> their respective weaknesses. Religion can't describe how God executed
>>> the
>>> creation process e.g. did he just snap his fingers when an idea came to
>>> mind
>>> or did he follow a procedure which culminated in an entity (star,
>>> planet,
>>> black hole etc)? Forgive me for offending/insulting my fellow
>>> Christians but
>>> what most of them don't understand is that the Bible is just a
>>> chronological
>>> series of events & not a biographical-like text. Picture this: the book
>>> of
>>> Genesis tells us the world was created in six days. How supremely
>>> confident
>>> are we that these are six Earth days? My quagmire is this: Does time
>>> pass at
>>> the same rate between us & God? My answer: Time Dilation, i.e. from the
>>> perspective of any observer within the same frame of reference &
>>> without
>>> reference to another frame of reference, time always passes at the same
>>> rate. "According To The Evidence" by Erich Von Daniken gives a good
>>> case of
>>> this. Science, on the other hand, explains how matter operates (from
>>> the
>>> atomic level) which answers questions as how the ozone layer is
>>> depleted,
>>> how the sun creates its energy that sustains life on Earth (though
>>> partly)
>>> etc though it can't explain who kick-started creation. My school of
>>> thought
>>> combines both religion & science to explain the origin of everything.
>>> My
>>> proposition is this: Science explains how God created & Religion
>>> explains
>>> why God created. God used science to create the universe & religion
>>> explains
>>> why we are here in the first place. Peter, understand why the
>>> physicists are
>>> conducting these experiments. They just want to find answers to
>>> questions
>>> that have plagued us since time immemorial. Whether or not they
>>> succeed,
>>> they'll definitely uncover knowledge that could be beneficial in our
>>> comprehension of the universe.
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>> My blog: http://kipsang.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/9/11 David Kago <kago at ultimate-security.net>
>>>>
>>>> I have been watching the big bang experiment with interest and was
>>>> amazed
>>>> when they finally announced on the media that they have been able get
>>>> the
>>>> proton beam to go all the way into the supercooled (-273C) 27km
>>>> tunnel.
>>>> While this is a scientific and engineering marvel, the sums spent to
>>>> set up
>>>> the largest machine on earth together are stupendous, $10 billion is
>>>> not
>>>> your everyday lump of cash, that's kenya's 2008/2009 budget; all in
>>>> the name
>>>> of proving a theory... Of whose benefit will it be if they finally
>>>> prove
>>>> that antimatter and dark energy exists... what will quark gluon plasma
>>>> and
>>>> bosons mean to the everyday earthling. I believe science should be
>>>> used for
>>>> the betterment of the human race, not to prove a theory that is
>>>> infinitely
>>>> larger than us. I can see all those suffering masses in the third
>>>> world who
>>>> would have benefited greatly from such funds...
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, the data produced in the experiment is being channeled
>>>> through the other internet (the Grid). Who wouldnt want to download
>>>> whole hard disks from halfway around the globe in a few seconds...!!!
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "The computer programmer . . . is a creator of universes for which he
>>> alone
>>> is the lawgiver. . . . No playwright, no stage director, no emperor,
>>> however
>>> powerful, has ever exercised such absolute authority to arrange a stage
>>> or a
>>> field of battle and to command such unswervingly dutiful actors or
>>> troops."
>>>
>>> ~ Joseph Weizenbaum...
>>>
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