[kictanet] [Skunkworks] Big Bang Replay

Tue Sep 16 17:38:02 EAT 2008

> importantly the confirmation of the special theory of relativity.

Should be general relativity, which  is the basis of current
cosmological models of an expanding universe.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:32 PM, David Otwoma <otwomad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> If you are to be a good physicist you have to stop believing in the
> hoax of a 'godly' being. Only then can you make plausible assumptions
> and use them to test a hypothesis.
>
> That experiment is not only about the big bang theory but more
> importantly the confirmation of the special theory of relativity.
>
> Keep hallucinations (beliefs in mortal/immortal beings) and observe
> either from existentialist or matter principle. The answers are
> staring you in the face. Just be a little bit innovative.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Mike Bullut <mike.bullut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> David et al.,
>>
>> If I may ask you: What is the significance of research? Or more deeply: What
>> is the purpose of meaning? I'll leave you to answer the latter question for
>> yourselves. I'm a staunch advocate of research for the reason being most of
>> mankind's greatest advancements wouldn't have seen the light of day if a
>> certain man/woman hadn't taken the initiative to investigate better ways on
>> how to execute certain/everyday tasks.
>>
>> Here are a few of them:
>>
>> Alexander Graham Bell & his invention of the telephone. [Communication]
>> Alexander Flemming & his discovery of penicillin. [Medicine]
>> Thomas Edison & his invention of the electric bulb. [Engineering?]
>>
>> In the advancement of knowledge:
>>
>> Albert Einstein & his theory of relativity. [Physics]
>> Alfred Wegner & his theory of continental drift. [Geology, Geography]
>> Charles Darwin & his theory of evolution. [Biology]
>> Nicolaus Copernicus & his theory of heliocentric cosmology. [Astronomy]
>>
>> Onto the subject of the experiments being conducted at the Large Hadron
>> Collider situated at CERN, their raison d'être is to scrutinize The Big Bang
>> Theory. One of science's (& life's) greatest mysteries is the origin of
>> everything (the universe, life itself etc). There are two schools of thought
>> that try to illustrate this: Religion & Science. The former explains that
>> the universe was created by a supreme being, God, at the beginning of time &
>> took six days with our Heavenly Father resting on the seventh day. The
>> latter explains that the universe was created in a cataclysmic explosion
>> originating from the most infinitesimal particle of matter which has
>> expanded (over the course of fifteen billion years & counting) to what we
>> observe today through telescopes. Of course, these schools of thought have
>> their respective weaknesses. Religion can't describe how God executed the
>> creation process e.g. did he just snap his fingers when an idea came to mind
>> or did he follow a procedure which culminated in an entity (star, planet,
>> black hole etc)? Forgive me for offending/insulting my fellow Christians but
>> what most of them don't understand is that the Bible is just a chronological
>> series of events & not a biographical-like text. Picture this: the book of
>> Genesis tells us the world was created in six days. How supremely confident
>> are we that these are six Earth days? My quagmire is this: Does time pass at
>> the same rate between us & God? My answer: Time Dilation, i.e. from the
>> perspective of any observer within the same frame of reference & without
>> reference to another frame of reference, time always passes at the same
>> rate. "According To The Evidence" by Erich Von Daniken gives a good case of
>> this. Science, on the other hand, explains how matter operates (from the
>> atomic level) which answers questions as how the ozone layer is depleted,
>> how the sun creates its energy that sustains life on Earth (though partly)
>> etc though it can't explain who kick-started creation. My school of thought
>> combines both religion & science to explain the origin of everything. My
>> proposition is this: Science explains how God created & Religion explains
>> why God created. God used science to create the universe & religion explains
>> why we are here in the first place. Peter, understand why the physicists are
>> conducting these experiments. They just want to find answers to questions
>> that have plagued us since time immemorial. Whether or not they succeed,
>> they'll definitely uncover knowledge that could be beneficial in our
>> comprehension of the universe.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> My blog: http://kipsang.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>> 2008/9/11 David Kago <kago at ultimate-security.net>
>>>
>>> I have been watching the big bang experiment with interest and was amazed
>>> when they finally announced on the media that they have been able get the
>>> proton beam to go all the way into the supercooled (-273C) 27km tunnel.
>>> While this is a scientific and engineering marvel, the sums spent to set up
>>> the largest machine on earth together are stupendous, $10 billion is not
>>> your everyday lump of cash, that's kenya's 2008/2009 budget; all in the name
>>> of proving a theory... Of whose benefit will it be if they finally prove
>>> that antimatter and dark energy exists... what will quark gluon plasma and
>>> bosons mean to the everyday earthling. I believe science should be used for
>>> the betterment of the human race, not to prove a theory that is infinitely
>>> larger than us. I can see all those suffering masses in the third world who
>>> would have benefited greatly from such funds...
>>>
>>> On a side note, the data produced in the experiment is being channeled
>>> through the other internet (the Grid). Who wouldnt want to download
>>> whole hard disks from halfway around the globe in a few seconds...!!!
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>>
>>
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>>
>> "The computer programmer . . . is a creator of universes for which he alone
>> is the lawgiver. . . . No playwright, no stage director, no emperor, however
>> powerful, has ever exercised such absolute authority to arrange a stage or a
>> field of battle and to command such unswervingly dutiful actors or troops."
>>
>> ~ Joseph Weizenbaum...
>>
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