[kictanet] Fwd: RE: Day 1 of 10 comments from Louis
John Walubengo
jwalu at yahoo.com
Tue May 20 14:54:41 EAT 2008
Attached were Louis comments, some members said they never
got them...
walu.
--- "Othieno, Louis" <LOthieno at ke.peacecorps.gov> wrote:
> Subject: RE: [kictanet] What Role is Civil
> Society,Private and Public Sector Playing in ICT4D-Day 1
> of 10
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:33:38 +0300
> From: "Othieno, Louis" <LOthieno at ke.peacecorps.gov>
> To: "John Walubengo" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>
> I suspect the word "civil" in "civil society" must be
> intended to exclude violent advancement of those shared
> interests. A terrorist group, for instance -while
> otherwise fitting in the definition of civil society as
> below, cannot properly qualify to be so referred. I
> therefore suggest we expressely limit our definition to
> non-aggressive, peaceful advancement of a shared interest
>
> On private-public partnership - I agree. For further
> clarity, it might help to note that PPP has become more
> widely accepted in recent years with increasing
> realization that the pursuit of profit is not always at
> the expense and detriment of the common good...and that
> in some cases, the common good is best served through the
> coincidental pursuit of private profit. PPP are about
> identifying such situations and agreeing ways of working
> for mutual advantage
>
> Louis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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[mailto:kictanet-bounces+lothieno=ke.peacecorps.gov at lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On Behalf Of John Walubengo
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:45 PM
> To: Othieno, Louis
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions;
>
kictanet-bounces+meldon=symphony.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] What Role is Civil
> Society,Private and Public Sector Playing in ICT4D-Day 1
> of 10
>
> Thanx Mike for your quick and precise definitions...I
> found that your thinking does match the understanding
> from good old Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/ and I
> quote below.
>
> Civil society: refers to the arena of un-coerced
> collective action around shared interests, purposes and
> values.,
>
> Private Sector: is that part of the economy which is both
> run for private profit and is not controlled by the
> state.
>
> Public Sector:part of economic and administrative life
> that deals with the delivery of goods and services by and
> for the government,
>
> ICT4D: refers to the application of Information and
> Communication Technologies (ICTs) within the field of
> socio-economic Development.
>
> I do hope everyone agrees with these definitions so that
> we avoid misunderstandings as we progress in the
> discussions.
>
> walu.
>
> --- MEldon at symphony.co.ke wrote:
>
> > Thanks for returning to the fray, Walu.
> >
> > The term Civil Society is used in different ways. At
> its broadest it
> > can mean all non-state actors, from NGOs to private
> sector (including
> > the
> > media) to faith and community based organisations. But
> it is often
> > used merely to refer to groups like human rights
> activists or
> > peace-builders.
> >
> > As far as PPPs are concerned, here we are talking about
> the public and
> > private sector working together towards common goals.
> In the last
> > decade or so PPPs have gathered pace, with the
> intensified efforts of
> > organisations such as FKE and KAM, and with the
> emergence of KEPSA as
> > the private sector umbrella body. Government too has
> been increasingly
> > reaching out to the private sector, in the spirit of
> what can be
> > called constructive engagement. But PPPs can also mean
> the
> > institutional bodies that drive eg large scale
> infrastructure
> > development, such as the undersea cable.
> >
> > Over to others for more (or different!)
> >
> > Mike Eldon
> >
> >
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> > From: John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com>
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> > To: meldon at symphony.co.ke
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> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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> > Date: 05/19/2008 08:51 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] What Role is Civil
> Society,
> > Private and Public Sector Playing in ICT4D-Day 1 of
> > 10
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> > Morning,
> >
> > As previously notified in the mail copied below, today
> is Day 1 of the
> > above discussion. Today is simply a background day.
> Make sure we
> > have the same definitions for various terminologies and
> stakeholders.
> > What is our understanding of the following.
> >
> > Civil Society, Public Sector, Private Sector, Public
> Private
> > Partnerships? Anyone?
> >
> > walu.
> >
> > --- John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Within the background of the upcoming Regional ICT
> for Development
> > > (ICT4D) Workshop on Monday 19th May 2008, KICTAnet is
> pleased to
> > > announce a 10day Online deliberation on the following
> topic: 'What
> > > Role is Civil Society, Private and Public Sector
> Playing in ICT4D?'
> > >
> > > The eDiscussion and the face-2-face workshop will
> simoultaneously
> > > kick off on Monday 19th and we hope to have an
> interesting
> > > cross-pollinated engagement. The Objectives and
> Program outline for
> > > the eDiscussion is given below and shall be
> co-moderated by Walu and
> > > Leonard Mware.
> > >
> > > The Objectives of the Study include:
> > > •Understand the terminologies and define the
> Key Stakeholders
> > > (Civil Society, Private and Public Sector)
> •Investigate exsiting
> > > Policy frameworks that informs Stakeholders
> activities in ICT4D
> > > •Appraise Civil Society activites, motives and
> > challenges
> > > with regard to ICT4D
> > > •Appraise Private Sector activites, motives and
> challenges with
> > > regard to ICT4D •Appraise and take stock of
> Public Sector
> > > activites, motives and challenges with regard to
> ICT4D
> > > •Investigate existing and possible models for
> PPP
> > within
> > > the context of ICT4D
> > >
> > > The general progam outline is given below.
> > > •Terminologies and background (ICT4D, PPP, etc)
> –
> > Day 1
> > > •Review existing Policy frameworks for ICT4D
> – Day
> > 2
> > > •Appraise Civil Society Roles (activities,
> motives &
> > > challenges) Day 3-4
> > > •Appraise Private Sector Roles (activities,
> motives &
> > > challenges) Day 5-6
> > > •Appraise Public Sector Roles (activities,
> motives &
> > > challenges) Day 7-8
> > > •Review PPP models (motives and roles of
> partners, operational
> > > models & challenges), Day 9-10
> > >
> > > Plse get ready to contribute and participate in the
> > usual
> > > KICTAnet way.
> > >
> > > ~~~~Ends~~~~~.
> > >
> > > walu.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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