[Kictanet] Day 3 of 10: What are the existing Business Modelsfor OFC provision?

Thu Jan 25 16:03:30 EAT 2007

Flag and KDN are fully open and the capacity purchasers can adopt ANY 
structure they want! SPV, Consortium, Private, Government ....
I would even suppose we start a commodity trading section at NSE dealing 
with submarine capacity!

Rgds

Kai

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Walubengo" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
To: <kai.wulff at kdn.co.ke>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Kictanet] Day 3 of 10: What are the existing Business 
Modelsfor OFC provision?

> Thanx Eric, three models are more than enough headache for
> now...
>
> On another thought, am thinking EASsy wants to go the
> 'Consortium' way, Flag by KDN would go the 'Private'
> way...but does any one know which model TEAMs is adopting?
> Private, Consortium or OpenAccess?
>
> Check out the
> story...http://allafrica.com/stories/200701230830.html
>
> walu.
> --- Eric Osiakwan <eric at afrispa.org> wrote:
>
>> I dont understand what you mean by c) Open Access Model
>> (Proposed by
>> Academia/Civil Societies), not that i have any problem
>> with who
>> proposed it but i think the premise is what does it mean
>> as a model?
>>
>> Open Access primarily underscores the need to consider
>> other elements
>> other than private interest so Open Access is actually
>> the
>> multistakeholder model that tries to unify or bring under
>> one
>> umbrella the various interest. Be it private, public,
>> academia, CS etc.
>>
>> NB: There is also a Hybrid model but sorry am not in a
>> position to
>> dig on it right now
>>
>>
>> On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:44, John Walubengo wrote:
>>
>> > O.K....
>> >
>> > Even though Badru has jumped ahead into Day 5 theme
>> (i.e
>> > Best Model) I wish to confirm if we are agreed that
>> there
>> > seems to be only the three models for Providing OFC,
>> > namely,
>> > a) Purely Private Sector (Practiced in Developed
>> Economies)
>> > b) Consortium Model (Practiced in SAT3 example)
>> > c) Open Access Model (Proposed by Academia/Civil
>> Societies)
>> >
>> > could there be a 4th model out there? Maybe there is a
>> > middle ground model where all stakeholders are happy.
>> Plse
>> > voice your opinion today before tomorrow - where we
>> shall
>> > start a new Theme on 'appropriate Regulatory models for
>> > managing OFC'.
>> >
>> > walu.
>> > Themes Reminder
>> > 1) Why OFC (1day)
>> > 2) Existing Business Models for OFC (2days)
>> > 3) Existing/Appropriate Regulatory Models for OFC
>> (2days)
>> > 4) Best Model (Business+Regulatory) for E. Africans
>> (2days)
>> > 5) Projected Impact on Stakeholders (2days)
>> > 6) Reconciling Stakeholder interests/Conclusions
>> (2days)
>> >
>> > --- John Walubengo <jwalubengo at kcct.ac.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Some interesting insights from Badru and Njorohio...
>> >>
>> >> walu.
>> >>
>> >>> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:16:22 +0300
>> >> From: Badru Ntege <ntegeb at one2net.co.ug>
>> >> To: APC - Private list for use by EASSY Workshop
>> >> Participants
>> >> <fibre-for-africa at lists.apc.org>
>> >> CC: African Information Society Initiative -
>> Discussion
>> >> Forum
>> >> <aisi-l at lyris.bellanet.org>,
>> >> DigAfrica at yahoogroups.com, John Walubengo
>> >> <jwalubengo at kcct.ac.ke>,
>> >> KIPlist <kiplist-cl at lyris.idrc.ca>,
>> >> Africa ICT Policy Forum <africtic at dgroups.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Fibre-for-africa] Join KICTAnet's online
>> >> discuission: What is
>> >> the best model for providing the Fiber Optic
>> Submarine
>> >> Cable to East
>> >> Africans?
>> >>
>> >> I think we all know "who shot EASSY". it was politics
>> and
>> >> egos which
>> >> have never been good bed fellows. The guilty parties
>> that
>> >> pulled the
>> >> trigger are kenya and South Africa though the jury is
>> >> still out on this.
>> >> Then along the way came some other characters who used
>> >> the impasse to
>> >> get some free publicity (we all know who they are ).
>> when
>> >> time to pay up
>> >> came they all disappeared and guess who is suffering.
>> >>
>> >> If government's and Nepad want to be in please consult
>> >> the community,
>> >> lay the law and rules of engagement and stay away.
>> then
>> >> next should be
>> >> those who have the pockets to come in and build the
>> >> fiber.
>> >>
>> >> I mean at the end of the day business rules will kick
>> in
>> >> and eventually
>> >> the price will come down. If government wants to
>> >> intervene to bring
>> >> costs down then give the businesses an incentive to
>> offer
>> >> good pricing,
>> >> maybe tax waivers etc.
>> >>
>> >> Lets forget the nice world in the clouds where
>> everyone
>> >> has access and
>> >> buys at the same price etc. Some things need to be
>> given
>> >> time to develop
>> >> naturaly.
>> >>
>> >> Many things and services in all our walks of life are
>> >> built by private
>> >> entities some are closed clubs and others are open.
>> that
>> >> is a business
>> >> decision.
>> >>
>> >> Forget open access and all that baloony, all those
>> >> consultants who were
>> >> singing all this nice to the ears stuff are back
>> sitting
>> >> behind there
>> >> 10mB links costing them a few dollars while we are
>> >> sitting on our 16k
>> >> 32k links moaning EASSY.
>> >>
>> >> Bottom line allow the operators to build the cable
>> >> Set operating criteria and acceptable pricing levels
>> >> Government concentrates on facilitating internal
>> networks
>> >> to Rural
>> >> communities
>> >> Encourage the production of local content
>> >> Put in measures that will create demand and thus
>> market
>> >> forces to bring
>> >> the prices down.
>> >>
>> >> my 2 cents
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> gathuri njorohio wrote:
>> >>> Hi All
>> >>> The EASSY cable implementation seems to be stalling
>> due
>> >> to
>> >>> disagreement on financing and the way to operate and
>> >> manage it.
>> >>> The Eastern african countries will continue being
>> >> overcharged for
>> >>> their international traffic when they pass through
>> >> satellite due to
>> >>> lack of this cheap way of carrying traffic through
>> the
>> >> submarine cable.
>> >>> We are aware of the regional economic bodies that are
>> >> mandated to
>> >>> promote trade between the countries and I suggest
>> that
>> >> they should
>> >>> also invest in ICT .COMESA and SADC are the bodies
>> >> catering for trade
>> >>> in south and eastern Africa.Why can't they take the
>> >> opportunity to
>> >>> invest in this cable so that it can benefit the
>> >> countries they are
>> >>> serving.
>> >>> A company can be formed answerable to these two
>> bodies
>> >> for the
>> >>> installation , maintenance and operation of this
>> cable.
>> >>> The western africa and central africa can do the same
>> >> for the western
>> >>> cable link.
>> >>> The existing cables can continue to give redundancy
>> for
>> >> the new cables.
>> >>> The e commission of the NEPAD could facilitate these
>> >> intiatives as a
>> >>> neutral body for the development of Africa.
>> >>> Eng. Njorohio
>> >>> */alice at apc.org/* wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>     (Apologies for Cross positing)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>
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