[kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate

Wed Feb 21 15:20:01 EAT 2007

Cool idea on the E-centre, maybe we could get more of
this in Eastlands.
Ritah
--- Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is soo cool...Jose,
> 
> I need to link up with you of the list...please....
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> On 2/21/07, Jose' <ngunjirijnr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Checkout,
> >
> > www.kimathiinformationcentre.com
> >
> > some of the pages are still under construction
> like the forum,chat and
> > guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-)
> >
> > We reach out to the Easltands community with free
> ICT lessons
> > also we are a one stop E-centre.
> >
> > We are in the process of organizing a youth
> symposium that will focus on
> > preparing youth in creating business
> proposals,business plans and how to
> > apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.
> >
> > All keep y'all posted
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> > To: ngunjirijnr at yahoo.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?
> >
> > well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery
> when
> > their registration form had too many of what I
> thought were
> > personal questions without equivalent
> demonstration of how
> > they would secure my data...
> >
> > Nway, I just checked their website and it is up
> and
> > running...so what do you mean when you say they
> are no
> > longer working?
> >
> > walu.
> >
> > --- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very
> popular free
> > > internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no
> longer
> > > working? I wonder why?
> > >
> > > /Alex
> > >
> > > Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote: Alex,
> > >
> > > Thank you for sharing the blog on the
> anti-consumer
> > > setting in the country. The blog has very useful
> > > information that is not being shared with Kenyan
> > > consumers and it is key that consumer rights are
> upheld.
> > > Your blog out to be brought to more attention of
> key
> > > stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.
> > >
> > > Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to
> > > authoritatively comment on such an issue.
> However I
> > > believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the
> ability to
> > > use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US.
> It is very
> > > likely that the call back numbers which are 0800
> numbers
> > > are no longer profitable for AT&T especially
> given that
> > > they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they
> are
> > > supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to
> "call
> > > back" the US direct from any other country be it
> Kenya or
> > > the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US
> from
> > > Kenya as high as it is and with local providers
> beating
> > > their tariffs they may have opted to drop this
> service.
> > > What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US
> based
> > > customers unable to call the US using their AT&T
> calling
> > > cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant
> prices.
> > >
> > > The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of no
> future
> > > support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't
> very
> > > clear and after some digging around it appears
> that it
> > > referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back
> services
> > > while traveling overseas, it might just be due
> to stiff
> > > competition now that VOIP has been deregulated
> and
> > > tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and
> that no
> > > one in their right mind would be willing to pay
> $3+ per
> > > minute for a call to the US when for a extremely
> small
> > > fraction one could make the same phone call at a
> lower
> > > rate.
> > >
> > > Even then the tariffs in general are not fair
> enough for
> > > Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to
> enforce
> > > changes when some of the largest tax payers
> happen to be
> > > communication providers. It is unthinkable that
> the
> > > government would do much to jeopardize a large
> and steady
> > > tax revenue stream to save the honorable
> consumer.
> > > Increasingly huge profits in a formerly
> depressed and now
> > > recovering economy like ours raise the question
> whether
> > > the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin
> to oil
> > > companies making several times over some nations
> GDP in
> > > profits and claiming that they are struggling
> themselves
> > > and offering the best prices possible. Price
> regulation
> > > in the industry is something that should be
> looked into
> > > to further to try and strike a fair balance
> between
> > > consumers needs and investors return on equity.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On 2/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > Mike:
> > >
> > > Although this is a consumer issue, you may
> notice we have
> > > quite some domestic wars with the prevailing
> > > anti-consumer setting, 
> http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/
> > > for example.
> > >
> > > By engaging foreign networks, I am afraid the
> ICT
> > > Consumers Association of Kenya could be
> considered acting
> > > ultra vires thus the Ministry of Information and
> > > Communications, CCK, and perhaps also Foreign
> Affairs are
> > > best  suited to comment.
> > >
> > > Would a provocative question, like "why has a
> private US
> > > telco unilaterally cut-off communication from
> Kenya to
> > > the US jeopardizing both a basic human right and
> the
> > > national outsourcing strategy" earn a quick
> response from
> > > government?
> > >
> > > rgds,
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote:  As
> an after
> > > thought, this may mean calls  dialed through
> this number
> > > which by itself is a very expensive option and
> which may
> > > reflect the effects of voip and lowered costs of
> > > international calls:
> 
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