[kictanet] E-Centre in Eastlands-Kimathi Estate

Wed Feb 21 14:52:08 EAT 2007

This is soo cool...Jose,

I need to link up with you of the list...please....

Kind Regards,

On 2/21/07, Jose' <ngunjirijnr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Checkout,
>
> www.kimathiinformationcentre.com
>
> some of the pages are still under construction like the forum,chat and
> guest book pages.Oh! also the donation page :-)
>
> We reach out to the Easltands community with free ICT lessons
> also we are a one stop E-centre.
>
> We are in the process of organizing a youth symposium that will focus on
> preparing youth in creating business proposals,business plans and how to
> apply for loans and in particular the Youth loan.
>
> All keep y'all posted
>
> Best Regards,
> Jose' Njuki-Imwe Ngunjiri || +254 722 336754 ||
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Walubengo <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> To: ngunjirijnr at yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:45:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Sasanet not working?
>
> well, am not a subscriber to them - i got jittery when
> their registration form had too many of what I thought were
> personal questions without equivalent demonstration of how
> they would secure my data...
>
> Nway, I just checked their website and it is up and
> running...so what do you mean when you say they are no
> longer working?
>
> walu.
>
> --- Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't you be curious to find out a very popular free
> > internet-based www.sasanet.co.ke is now no longer
> > working? I wonder why?
> >
> > /Alex
> >
> > Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote: Alex,
> >
> > Thank you for sharing the blog on the anti-consumer
> > setting in the country. The blog has very useful
> > information that is not being shared with Kenyan
> > consumers and it is key that consumer rights are upheld.
> > Your blog out to be brought to more attention of key
> > stakeholders in ICT and to consumers alike.
> >
> > Yes, the Ministry and CCK are best placed to
> > authoritatively comment on such an issue. However I
> > believe that what AT&T is discontinuing is the ability to
> > use a "call back" number from Kenya to the US. It is very
> > likely that the call back numbers which are 0800 numbers
> > are no longer profitable for AT&T especially given that
> > they cost as high as $3/min. Technically they are
> > supposed to be cheaper to use than if one was to "call
> > back" the US direct from any other country be it Kenya or
> > the UK. However with AT&T's rate to call the US from
> > Kenya as high as it is and with local providers beating
> > their tariffs they may have opted to drop this service.
> > What this might do, is it might leave AT&T US based
> > customers unable to call the US using their AT&T calling
> > cards for what would otherwise be exorbitant prices.
> >
> > The wording of the AT&T notice on the lack of no future
> > support for calls originating from Kenya wasn't very
> > clear and after some digging around it appears that it
> > referred to users of AT&T who utilize call back services
> > while traveling overseas, it might just be due to stiff
> > competition now that VOIP has been deregulated and
> > tariffs have fallen (though not low enough) and that no
> > one in their right mind would be willing to pay $3+ per
> > minute for a call to the US when for a extremely small
> > fraction one could make the same phone call at a lower
> > rate.
> >
> > Even then the tariffs in general are not fair enough for
> > Kenyan consumers and it is an uphill battle to enforce
> > changes when some of the largest tax payers happen to be
> > communication providers. It is unthinkable that the
> > government would do much to jeopardize a large and steady
> > tax revenue stream to save the honorable consumer.
> > Increasingly huge profits in a formerly depressed and now
> > recovering economy like ours raise the question whether
> > the consumer is getting a fair deal. It is akin to oil
> > companies making several times over some nations GDP in
> > profits and claiming that they are struggling themselves
> > and offering the best prices possible. Price regulation
> > in the industry is something that should be looked into
> > to further to try and strike a fair balance between
> > consumers needs and investors return on equity.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 2/18/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Mike:
> >
> > Although this is a consumer issue, you may notice we have
> > quite some domestic wars with the prevailing
> > anti-consumer setting,  http://ictconsumer.blogspot.com/
> > for example.
> >
> > By engaging foreign networks, I am afraid the ICT
> > Consumers Association of Kenya could be considered acting
> > ultra vires thus the Ministry of Information and
> > Communications, CCK, and perhaps also Foreign Affairs are
> > best  suited to comment.
> >
> > Would a provocative question, like "why has a private US
> > telco unilaterally cut-off communication from Kenya to
> > the US jeopardizing both a basic human right and the
> > national outsourcing strategy" earn a quick response from
> > government?
> >
> > rgds,
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote:  As an after
> > thought, this may mean calls  dialed through this number
> > which by itself is a very expensive option and which may
> > reflect the effects of voip and lowered costs of
> > international calls:
> >
> > Kenya 0-800-2201-15 (608)
> >
> >  On 2/18/07, Mike Theuri <mike.theuri at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know why the below might be the case ? AT&T
> > printed this in small print on bills sent to customer in
> > January. Considering
> > that AT&T is the largest telco in the US this is a
> > serious issue :
> >
> > International Call Origination:
> > Effective March 1, 2007, our International Call
> > Origination service will change. Current access
> > numbers for calls originating internationally
> > will change. Please visit   att.com/dialing-guide
> > to print the new dialing-guide for your reference;
> > or call the number on your bill to order a new
> > dialing guide. Calls from Kenya to US will
> > no longer be supported. International to
> > international calling from St. Martin will no
> > longer be supported. Also, International
> > service will be expanded to over 60 additional
> > countries. To find out rates and countries where
> > we provide service, please visit
> >   att.com/intl-rates.
> >
> >
> >
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