[kictanet] KICTANet Digest, Vol 170, Issue 17

Tue Apr 12 15:57:34 EAT 2022

Adrian

Just curious about your statement below:-

*"...but It's apparent even from MJ's interview with #KTNNews that m-pesa
is seeking to transition to be a fully-fledged bank."* end quote.

 Could you kindly give us some more information on this? Where did you get
this idea from? And if you have it, could you share MJ's clip on this
particular subject?

My understanding about banking licensing is that you don't start collecting
customer information before you are authorized to do so. Generally,
prudential guidelines are very strict on this.

On a light note - Mpesa doesn't need a banking license. It's already a
bank! whether they admit it or not. There is an English saying that goes -
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it is likely that it
is a duck! 😅

*Ali Hussein*

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 3:29 PM Adrian Teri via KICTANet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Seems like #Saf suffers from the same ailments like GOK in communicating
> effectively? Or were they taking advantage of the situation as citizens
> fear gov't? The Chief of Risk Management & Security at #Saf points to
> enhancing security but It's apparent even from MJ's interview with #KTNNews
> that m-pesa is seeking to transition to be a fully fledged bank.
>
>
> https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/videos/sim-card-registration-why-safaricom-is-taking-your-photos-3778858
>
> Regards,
> Adrian Teri
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Adrian Teri <adriateri at gmail.com>
>> To: "Kenya's premier ICT Policy engagement platform" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 13:07:04 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KICTANet Digest, Vol 170, Issue 11
>> Good day all,
>>
>> There is something remiss and I see it unravelling rather quickly and
>> badly. The CA is a gov't commission, essentially a creature of GoK. What's
>> the purpose of Huduma namba while one still pays a facilitation fee of
>> 1,050/= for numerous services in ecitizen only for them to collect the same
>> data they did for the mass registration of huduma namba(fingerprints, photo
>> and I even think an e signature was part of it too)? A Déjà vu to the
>> Huduma Namba exercise where the gov't was simply unable to communicate that
>> were upgrading our IDs from biographic to biometrics?
>>
>> Why waste productive capacity and man hours to duplicate data multiple
>> times? Are your fingerprints & birth certificate changing? And even in
>> aspects that do like your area of residence, contact details, marital
>> status, assets etc. if there are 2 or more institutions requiring such info
>> will you continue to trudge across all of them to update your details?
>>
>> I do believe the CA has technical people and in IT we know you can design
>> an IDP or SSO-like system where you centralize(Just like the Huduma namba's
>> aka "single source of truth") storage and management of your user's digital
>> identities. In this analogy it would be a gov't institution/corp asserting
>> you are who you claim to be(authentication).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrian Teri
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>>> To: "Kenya's premier ICT Policy engagement platform" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 21:07:03 +0300
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] SIM CARD REGISTRATION & DATA PROTECTION ACT, 2019
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022, 19:20 Mutindi Muema via KICTANet, <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gobsmaked in deed 💯
>>>>
>>>> The CA has finally stated today that kica SIM registration regs does
>>>> not require photo of subscriber to be taken
>>>>
>>>> Full interview on Youtube here https://youtu.be/-SpW2rFhYxQ
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Meaning then if you ever registered, you will not need to re-register.
>>> Because  photograph was the only missing link that was never taken in
>>> previous initial registration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Kathy Mwai <kathymwai at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Kenya's premier ICT Policy engagement platform" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 21:47:46 +0300
>>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] SIM CARD REGISTRATION & DATA PROTECTION ACT, 2019
>>> @Mwendwa, apparently there's an electronic signature as well. I called
>>> Safaricom earlier this is what they told me: They will scan the ID, take a
>>> passport photo, and electronic signature 🤔
>>>
>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 at 21:08, Mwendwa Kivuva via KICTANet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022, 19:20 Mutindi Muema via KICTANet, <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gobsmaked in deed 💯
>>>>>
>>>>> The CA has finally stated today that kica SIM registration regs does
>>>>> not require photo of subscriber to be taken
>>>>>
>>>>> Full interview on Youtube here https://youtu.be/-SpW2rFhYxQ
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meaning then if you ever registered, you will not need to re-register.
>>>> Because  photograph was the only missing link that was never taken in
>>>> previous initial registration
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>> “The Communications Authority did not order the telecommunications
>>> companies to register all SIM card holders afresh,” Chiloba exclusively
>>> told *The Standard.*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Chiloba said the telecommunications companies that asked all Kenyans to
>>> re-register their lines, were “overzealous”, saying: “That’s not what we
>>> asked them to do.”*
>>>
>>>
>>> *The Director-General says the mobile service providers opted for a
>>> knee-jerk reaction after CA demanded that all the service providers must
>>> provide updated lists of all their registered customers by April 15, 2022.*
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 12:19 AM Gachungi, Lydia via KICTANet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good people, so what is the current position?. Asking from Addis and
>>>> wondering since my sim card was already registered and when I dial *106# it
>>>> verifies I am registered, do I need to re-register?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lydia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* KICTANet <kictanet-bounces+l.gachungi=
>>>> unesco.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke> *On Behalf Of *Mwendwa Kivuva via
>>>> KICTANet
>>>> *Sent:* 08 April 2022 21:07
>>>> *To:* Gachungi, Lydia <l.gachungi at unesco.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] SIM CARD REGISTRATION & DATA PROTECTION ACT,
>>>> 2019
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Fri, 8 Apr 2022, 19:20 Mutindi Muema via KICTANet, <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gobsmaked in deed 💯
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The CA has finally stated today that kica SIM registration regs does
>>>> not require photo of subscriber to be taken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Full interview on Youtube here https://youtu.be/-SpW2rFhYxQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meaning then if you ever registered, you will not need to re-register.
>>>> Because  photograph was the only missing link that was never taken in
>>>> previous initial registration
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