[kictanet] WhatsApp to Move Ahead with its Privacy Updates

Wathagi Ndungu joywathagi at gmail.com
Wed Feb 24 12:22:05 EAT 2021


I think the will probably use another legal base like legitimate interest
of the controller. I would actually be happy to see some litigation on this
to get things moving.

Warm Regards,

Joy Wathagi Ndungu
LIPIT- Master's Student
Tel: +4917671687803
Email: joywathagi at gmail.com
Albrecht Thaer Weg 10A, 37075, Goettingen
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Herzliche Grüße,
Joy Wathagi Ndungu
LIPIT- Masterstudent
Tel.: +4917671687803
E-Mail: joywathagi at gmail.com
Albrecht Thaer Weg 10A, 37075, Göttingen


Joseph Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> schrieb am
Mi., 24. Feb. 2021, 10:19:

> I am not sure how they will be able to justify this move legally in Kenya
> due to the DPA. They won't be able to prove that the consent from users in
> Kenya was freely given. They therefore expose themselves to litigation as
> well as regulatory action by the data commissioner. This will be the case
> in every other country that has enacted data protection laws substantially
> similar to the GDPR.
>
> Best regards
> Joe
>
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, 12:00 Mwara Gichanga via kictanet, <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Wathangi I am with you on this one my biggest concern is that whatapp’s
>> parent company is FB which hasn’t had the best track record when it comes
>> to security assurance and privacy practices and so a lack of trust  has
>> built up overtime with us as their users.
>>
>> So what are our options?
>>
>> 1. Proceed with the app and hope by some miracle our DP Act protects us
>> in enforcement and implementation
>> 2. Switch to other messaging apps that are not run by big tech companies
>> who are under scrutiny for data collection
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 8:02 AM, Wathagi Ndungu via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mwara,
>>>
>>> 1.I believe  WhatsApp/Facebook has been pretty transparent about the
>>> Data they will be collecting as seen, so what exactly are we collating?
>>>
>>> 2. Personally I called their bluff on the February deletion and shall
>>> continue to do the same. I will not be accepting the new terms regardless
>>> of my location at the time their policy comes into force.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>>
>>> Joy Wathagi Ndungu
>>> LIPIT- Master's Student
>>> Tel: +4917671687803
>>> Email: joywathagi at gmail.com
>>> Albrecht Thaer Weg 10A, 37075, Goettingen
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Albrecht+Thaer+Weg+10A,+37075,+Goettingen?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Herzliche Grüße,
>>> Joy Wathagi Ndungu
>>> LIPIT- Masterstudent
>>> Tel.: +4917671687803
>>> E-Mail: joywathagi at gmail.com
>>> Albrecht Thaer Weg 10A, 37075, Göttingen
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Albrecht+Thaer+Weg+10A,+37075,+G%C3%B6ttingen?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mwara Gichanga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> schrieb am
>>> Mi., 24. Feb. 2021, 05:40:
>>>
>>>> Dear listers,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to those who managed to contribute to the discussions yesterday.
>>>> We are still collating our questions to Facebook regarding this subject.
>>>> Today let's talk about what's at stake with the new terms. To guide our
>>>> discussions, let's ponder over these questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. We already have applications that mine our instant generated data
>>>> from our mobile phones(eg bible apps, mobile lending apps, games etc).
>>>> What's different with Whatsapp getting this data?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Is there anyone who has accepted these terms already? What's your
>>>> experience so far?
>>>>
>>>> Lets continue the conversation!
>>>>
>>>> Warmly
>>>> Mwara
>>>>
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