[kictanet] Day 1 Talk2Facebook ~ Content Moderation

Fri Sep 18 17:17:51 EAT 2020

Sorry I'm late as my comment is from Day 1's agenda focus:

Question to Facebook - where or how do you draw the content boundary and
are the community standards global or are they local to the owner of the
Facebook account? An example would be where in some communities here in
Kenya and elsewhere in Africa the women's attire involves being
bare-chested (showing their breasts). Should I post something that
celebrates or mentions this culture and accompany it with the image of such
a lady, will you tell me the image is against the community standards?
Whose community standards if here in Kenya they are acceptable standards,
while in the West perhaps not?

I would expect that you allow me to make such a post and 'hide' it from
those in jurisdictions where the post goes against their community
standards, as this is not nudity.

Kathy

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 22:15, David Indeje via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> What Walu had hinted on Ethiopia perhaps;
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> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xg897a/hate-speech-on-facebook-is-pushing-ethiopia-dangerously-close-to-a-genocide
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> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020, 7:38 PM kanini mutemi via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>> Yes Walu. Would be great to hear from them on that.  It’s more concerning
>> when paid for content is prioritized over organic content. Now that we’re
>> diving into an election cycle- eyeballs are for sale and the winner (big
>> spender) takes it all.
>>
>> And I agree it’s not just Facebook. Google too with the differential
>> monetary treatment of content creators on YouTube.
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 19:14, Walubengo J via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>> Good question.
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>>> FB personnel are on the group/list and we believe we shall be hearing
>>> from them  soon ;-)
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>>> walu
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>>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:43:37 PM GMT+3, Grace Mutung'u <
>>> nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Walu,
>>> That's actually interesting....non interference in the US but engagement
>>> with government in Africa? What makes different spaces get different
>>> approaches?
>>> GB
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>>> On Wednesday, 16 September 2020, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> At the moment FB is struggling with online content issues with respect
>>> to the US elections...from media reports I get the feeling they are
>>> preferring the non-interference stance to content but I stand to be
>>> corrected.
>>>
>>> I get the feeling fake-news on digital platform may require capacity
>>> building of the general masses - over and above what FB may, or may not do.
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>>> walu
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>>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 12:06:33 PM GMT+3, Grace Mutung'u via
>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
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>>> Hi Teacher Karis,
>>> With regard to content moderation, I am wondering if Facebook has
>>> anything in the pipeline for upcoming Kenya elections. This is coming from
>>> reports on their recent work in Ethiopia. I got the sense that Facebook
>>> engaged with the government but still didn't help to contain content that
>>> led to offline violence. There is also a sense from civil society reports
>>> that Facebook took down content that should have stayed up or may have
>>> blocked dissenters. My question is therefore what they learnt from that
>>> experience in Ethiopia or other African countries they have engaged in.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Grace
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:30, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>>>
>>> My humble thoughts:-
>>>
>>> 1. How can we align current laws to go after the culprits who misuse
>>> platforms like these. With this, I also mean platform owners themselves.
>>> Policy Makers and Regulators the world over have unfortunately been caught
>>> flat-footed by these Gatekeeper Platforms. Like a knife, they can do a lot
>>> of good (in the kitchen!) but also be used as lethal weapons. How do we
>>> find the balance?
>>>
>>> 2. Let me ask a question - At a bar, a party, or even in the bedroom is
>>> there someone moderating our conversations or behaviors? Unless of course,
>>> you are in China where even the cockroach in your kitchen has been profiled
>>> by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). This is not a joke...
>>>
>>> 3. The Net Neutrality (yes..still my pet peeve :-)) debate must be
>>> revived. If we all had paid attention to this critical issue we probably
>>> would not be having these conversations. For those of you who are new to Net
>>> Neutrality click here <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality> to
>>> bring yourself up to speed.
>>>
>>> 4. Last but not least, Gatekeeper Platforms have a fiduciary
>>> responsibility and a social contract to keep the platforms clean and
>>> usable. The problem here is that we will be giving these guys too much
>>> power. Again, how do we find the balance?
>>>
>>> Regards
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>>> *AliHussein*
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>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:01 AM Kelvin Kariuki via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
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>>> Hi There!
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>>>
>>> Hoping you are having a
>>>
>>> great week, we are delighted to invite you to this 4 days series on
>>>
>>> “Talk2Facebook”, on Day 1, we are eager to hear from you on issues
>>> surrounding
>>>
>>> Content Moderation on FB!
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>>> Content Moderation
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>>> is a delicate balance between freedom of speech and censorship. Share
>>> your
>>>
>>> comments, experiences, and challenges with regard to Facebook Services
>>> along
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>>> the following themes:
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>>>
>>> a) Should FB be
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>>> moderating digital content on their platform or should it be open and
>>> liberal?
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>>> b) If FB can
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>>> moderate content on its platform, how can it balance out different
>>> cultural
>>>
>>> expectations where a single post in one jurisdiction is considered
>>> acceptable
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>>> while it becomes un-acceptable in another?
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>>> c) How can FB moderate
>>>
>>> content without being considered a gatekeeper or violating freedom of
>>> speech?
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>>> d) Has your
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>>> content posted on FB ever been flagged as un-acceptable and what was your
>>>
>>> reaction/experience? Is there a process of appeal?
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>>> We hope to hear from you
>>>
>>> today as tomorrow we will be talking about Data Protection Issues.
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>>> Have a great day!
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>>> Rest of the Program:
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>>>
>>> Day 2: Data Protection
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>>> Day 3: Human Rights &
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>>> Transparency
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>>> Day 4: Connectivity &
>>>
>>> Wrap Up
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>>> Warm Regards,
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>>> Tr. Karis
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