[kictanet] Day 1 Discussions: Digital Hailing Services Regulations

Liz Orembo lizorembo at gmail.com
Wed Feb 19 20:10:26 EAT 2020


We need someone like with Michuki fists to deal with the Matatu cartels.

I don't know who came up with the idea of Matatu routes.  People want the
most direct routes,  if possible avoid town, eg from eastlands to
Westlands, or to upperhill.  This will also ease Traffic.

SWVL's model offers the best alternative so far.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 16:08 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
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> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:27 AM Mildred Achoch via kictanet <
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>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> SWVL is trending on Twitter.The views expressed shed some light on what
>> people on the ground think. Below are a few:
>>
>> Maureen
>> @MohNderitu
>> Cartels are real. The owners of matatu's have felt the pinch and instead
>> of a fair fight in competition, they use power to terminate #swvl.
>>
>> Axelrod
>> @TheWainaina
>> I hate the fact that startups are increasingly being taken out of
>> business by regulation
>> -SportPesa
>> -Swvl
>> - Bike hailing companies in Nigeria.
>> Are startups immune to regulation? No. Government, should however not
>> kill innovation. Time for regulatory sandbox across industry
>>
>> Nyina Wa Búrúri
>> @Spazbender
>> The government should waive all costs for SWVL. They should be allowed to
>> operate all the routes they want to as long as all their vehicles are
>> registered and they can always show where their vehicles are at any given
>> time. Matatus are chaotic, SWVL brings order & sanity.
>>
>> Problem Solver
>> @MtatuziWaShida
>> Replying to
>> @dailynation
>> Kenya will remain  a  third world  country until it's death if it does
>> not embrace technology. Swvl is one way to make Nairobi a smart city.
>> Problem is we don't have a visionary leadership. Only short sighted clowns.
>>
>> J Nderi
>> @nderi_j
>> Headline reads "NTSA wants Swvl chief executive prosecuted." Headline
>> should read "NTSA fights development"...
>>
>> Gathu
>> @GathuNjogu
>> “Traditionally an operator is licensed to operate at a particular route
>> but Swvl wants to operate in a manner that they can go anywhere," said
>> NTSA's Licensing Manager Jackson Mutua...
>> @ntsa_kenya
>>  its 2020 but we still want to use traditional methods eeh?
>>
>> Secular Kenyan 🇰🇪
>> @Secular_Kenyan
>> The only problem facing #swvl is that they're not providing a platform
>> for NTSA and Kenya police officers to collect their 50/-
>>
>> 69
>> @__Mutuku
>> Lets be real, this isn't about operating illegally in the country. The
>> Matatu system is so rotten and those
>> @ntsa_kenya
>>  & the traffic commandant are used to receiving lot's of money from the
>> saccos. Anyway their day is coming and I can't wait!
>>
>> George Gachara
>> @Gachara
>> Swvl, Uber, Airbnb, Mpesa, Netflix, Drones etc., are part of new digital
>> biz models that most of our laws & institutions are unable to acknowledge.
>> Intelligent interaction is needed
>> @mucheru
>> @ntsa_kenya
>> @NairobiCityGov
>>  | NTSA wants Swvl boss prosecuted
>>
>> Tinah©
>> @tinahalmah
>> If
>> @ntsa_kenya
>>   kenya burns swvl there is gonna be a problem.its just like Uber, bolts
>> and little cab  for crying out loud..
>>
>> Angie M
>> @thoggy33
>> @ntsa_kenya
>>  what you're trying to do to SWVL is Shameful! You are not a Cartel for
>> Matatu's... Stop Behaving Like One!
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>> Regards,
>> Mildred Achoch.
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>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 9:10 AM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Good morning listers,
>>>
>>> Today we will talk about Digital Hailing Services Regulations and the
>>> licensing of the Service Operators under part 1 of the regulations.
>>>
>>> Looking at the document, it seems like the NTSA is trying to regulate
>>> the industry following the recent incidents that have come up: eg
>>> accidents, assisted crimes and digital taxi drivers woes. These regulations
>>> will require any digital hailing services; Uber, Bolt, and Swivl, to
>>> register in Kenya and operate under the Kenyan laws. They will also obtain
>>> operating licences from the NTSA.
>>>
>>> We would like to hear your views on this:
>>>
>>> a. Are the regulations necessary?
>>> b. Is NTSA the right/best body to regulate Digital Hailing Transport
>>> Services?
>>> c. What are the likely impacts in the transport industry, Information
>>> Society Sector and gig economy? etc
>>> d. Should multinationals be subjected to different licensing
>>> requirements?
>>>
>>> Here are some resources to guide our discussions.
>>> 1. Bolt, uber among taxi apps ordered to get licences or get off road.
>>> https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-04-uber-bolt-among-taxi-apps-ordered-to-get-licences-or-get-off-road/
>>> 2. Can California reign tech-gig platforms? A primer on the bold state
>>> law that will try.
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/01/14/can-california-reign-techs-gig-platforms-primer-bold-state-law-that-will-try/
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>>> Over to you listers.
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>>> Best regards.
>>> Liz.
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