[kictanet] DIGITAL HAILING TRANSPORT REGULATIONS

[Liz Orembo]

@Samuel, I'm not sure,  but check the National Traffic Act.

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 12:51 Bill Dian via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Currently attending the public participation.It is crystal clear that NTSA
>  doesn't know that hailing service operators are Data controllers and
> Processors and must get authorization from the Data Commissioner.The whole
> document is a mess!
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 11:17 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet, <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>> Well said Daktari, i am in agreement.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:16 am Bitange Ndemo via kictanet, <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> NTSA must adhere to the Data Protection Act. They cannot create new
>>> regulations that are outside their purview.
>>>
>>> Ndemo.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:05 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Liz.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>
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>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:35 AM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Public participation will be held at the KICC from 10am.  Please fell
>>>>> free to join.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deadline for submission is 17th Feb.  KICTANet is keen on submitting
>>>>> it's views on the regulations.  So  we will have a two days discussion on
>>>>> the list from Monday moderated by Mwara and I.  Structure of the
>>>>> discussions will be communicated later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Asanteni.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 09:30 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hezron
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt that this was announced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Orembo, Liz <lizorembo at kictanet.or.ke> please guide us as to the
>>>>>> next steps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 8:12 AM Hezron Gikanga via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where is the Stakeholder/Public participation Forum being held?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hez Gikang’a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *kictanet <kictanet-bounces+hezron.gikanga=
>>>>>>> thearcrayon.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Fauza Gila via
>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>>>> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 11:01
>>>>>>> *To: *<Hezron.Gikanga at thearcrayon.com>
>>>>>>> *Cc: *Fauza Gila <fauzagila at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] DIGITAL HAILING TRANSPORT REGULATIONS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am closely following on this.
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Ali.  Let's see how we can organise one in the afternoon or
>>>>>>> tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Malcom,  you raised very important points. My thoughts are that
>>>>>>> these laws seem to provide a framework through which NTSA can regulate the
>>>>>>> industry and address some of the issues that have been raised over time.
>>>>>>> Like assisted crime,  data protection, rogue driving etc.  But the question
>>>>>>> is,  does it provide the right frameworks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being an information service,  how will this impact in other
>>>>>>> industries, given that there's a likelihood of replication?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 09:42 Malcolm Kijirah via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd be interested in participating and also hearing views on this.
>>>>>>> There are a number of matters of interest here to me on reviewing them eg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - are they creating employment like obligations and people's views
>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - are some of the obligations are unnecessarily bureaucratic eg the
>>>>>>> visible markings..will the drivers all be required to have multiple
>>>>>>> markings for each company on their car and as I understand there is a
>>>>>>> branding fee from the county govts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - jurisdictional issues given they are Information society services
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - is this a way to ensure the govt can now impose/assess certain
>>>>>>> taxation obligations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - will this effectively change their business model in kenya to the
>>>>>>> point it affects the industry negatively?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings listers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NTSA has developed regulations for the the digital transport
>>>>>>> industry (the likes of ubber, taxify etc)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The proposed regulations include: requiring the digital hailing
>>>>>>> companies to have a comprehensive data protection terms for their users,
>>>>>>> the drivers and the company will also have to register with NTSA as digital
>>>>>>> hailing operators, and it will also require the companies to give data to
>>>>>>> NTSA upon request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached is the proposed bill which is up for public participation
>>>>>>> this Friday. Let us know your thoughts on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Liz.
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