[kictanet] DIGITAL HAILING TRANSPORT REGULATIONS

Fri Feb 7 12:47:16 EAT 2020

Currently attending the public participation.It is crystal clear that NTSA
 doesn't know that hailing service operators are Data controllers and
Processors and must get authorization from the Data Commissioner.The whole
document is a mess!

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 11:17 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet, <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Well said Daktari, i am in agreement.
>
> Regards
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:16 am Bitange Ndemo via kictanet, <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>> NTSA must adhere to the Data Protection Act. They cannot create new
>> regulations that are outside their purview.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:05 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Liz.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:35 AM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Public participation will be held at the KICC from 10am.  Please fell
>>>> free to join.
>>>>
>>>> Deadline for submission is 17th Feb.  KICTANet is keen on submitting
>>>> it's views on the regulations.  So  we will have a two days discussion on
>>>> the list from Monday moderated by Mwara and I.  Structure of the
>>>> discussions will be communicated later today.
>>>>
>>>> Asanteni.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 09:30 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hezron
>>>>>
>>>>> I doubt that this was announced.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Orembo, Liz <lizorembo at kictanet.or.ke> please guide us as to the
>>>>> next steps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 8:12 AM Hezron Gikanga via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is the Stakeholder/Public participation Forum being held?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hez Gikang’a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *kictanet <kictanet-bounces+hezron.gikanga=
>>>>>> thearcrayon.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Fauza Gila via
>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>>> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 11:01
>>>>>> *To: *<Hezron.Gikanga at thearcrayon.com>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Fauza Gila <fauzagila at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] DIGITAL HAILING TRANSPORT REGULATIONS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am closely following on this.
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Ali.  Let's see how we can organise one in the afternoon or
>>>>>> tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Malcom,  you raised very important points. My thoughts are that
>>>>>> these laws seem to provide a framework through which NTSA can regulate the
>>>>>> industry and address some of the issues that have been raised over time.
>>>>>> Like assisted crime,  data protection, rogue driving etc.  But the question
>>>>>> is,  does it provide the right frameworks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being an information service,  how will this impact in other
>>>>>> industries, given that there's a likelihood of replication?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 09:42 Malcolm Kijirah via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be interested in participating and also hearing views on this.
>>>>>> There are a number of matters of interest here to me on reviewing them eg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - are they creating employment like obligations and people's views on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - are some of the obligations are unnecessarily bureaucratic eg the
>>>>>> visible markings..will the drivers all be required to have multiple
>>>>>> markings for each company on their car and as I understand there is a
>>>>>> branding fee from the county govts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - jurisdictional issues given they are Information society services
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - is this a way to ensure the govt can now impose/assess certain
>>>>>> taxation obligations
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - will this effectively change their business model in kenya to the
>>>>>> point it affects the industry negatively?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NTSA has developed regulations for the the digital transport industry
>>>>>> (the likes of ubber, taxify etc)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed regulations include: requiring the digital hailing
>>>>>> companies to have a comprehensive data protection terms for their users,
>>>>>> the drivers and the company will also have to register with NTSA as digital
>>>>>> hailing operators, and it will also require the companies to give data to
>>>>>> NTSA upon request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached is the proposed bill which is up for public participation
>>>>>> this Friday. Let us know your thoughts on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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