[kictanet] - proper representation during vision formulation is what is missing - Konza City is now 10 years old

Patrick A. M. Maina pmaina2000 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 4 22:57:12 EAT 2019 

 Probably too early for a site visit... but I could be wrong - depending on the specific objectives of the trip and what can be expected to happen after the visit (and the timelines for post-visit milestones). 
As Konza is a "pull-type" project, stakeholder site visits ought to be initiated by the Konza biz-dev team (when they are ready) - according to their implementation plan... and probably targeted at specific groups with a compelling value prop.. imo.

But my take is from a time-constrained perspective. Keeping an open mind...

    On Friday, January 4, 2019, 9:36:12 PM GMT+3, Sam Oduor via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:  
 
 Hi John
Many thanks for your email; so looking forward to February - maybe you can make arrangements  pick-up and drop off locations; of-course at a fee to help ferry as many techies and investors who are interested. 



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On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 9:29 PM John Tanui via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

We shall continue with this conversation, we appreciate your input, comments and suggestions.

We can arrange to host you at Konza Technopolis site in February. We look forward to getting a confirmation of a date for KICTANet visit to site for a further engagement.

Regards
John Tanui

> On 4 Jan 2019, at 20:12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Many thanks for your prompt response and for taking this discussion
> seriously. I think there is need for greater engagement with
> stakeholders to ensure  this picture remains ingrained in our hearts
> and minds. You have certainly started of on the right path. From the
> interview with Capital FM , it appears you have managed to raise
> significant funding (KES 39 Billion).
> I have noticed that you have had special days for Policy Makers to
> make site visits. Can you organize something similar for the Policy
> and Tech practitioners on KICTANet and Skunkworks in partnership with
> KICTAnet?. This is a great conversation that should continue. From the
> Interview, you say that the critical thing for the project is to take
> off and not completion which i beg to disagree with even though it
> answers the question Washington is asking on whether Konza is dead or
> alive.
> 
> Thank you once again for your respone
> 
> Regards
> 
>> On 1/4/19, John Tanui via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>> Great comments and suggestions are noted here. The interest is appreciated
>> and we look forward to engaging all our stakeholders especially the tech
>> community.
>> 
>> As the person leading the team on implementation of this project, let me
>> give a brief status on the project.
>> 
>> Konza Technopolis project is on, it's now moving from planning to
>> implementation stage. In 2018 two key progress made is the start of the
>> implementation of  the horizontal infrastructure on phase 1, first building
>> approaching completion and bringing onboard a design consultant for the
>> research institute to be based at Konza.
>> 
>> Below are two recent interviews capturing the latest on the project
>> 
>> https://hapakenya.com/2018/12/07/ceo-fridays-kotdas-john-tanui-on-konza-city-as-the-future-of-innovation-and-technology-in-kenya/
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/rgr4tQtSzJw
>> 
>> Just like the growth history of some of the world leading innovation
>> spaces/science parks, Konza Technopolis has a long way to go, it's journey
>> is still at the early stages but now taking shape.
>> 
>> Below is some lessons from one of the world's leading science and technology
>> park  - the research triangle park
>> 
>> https://www.dartmouth.edu/~jtscott/Papers/00-22.pdf
>> 
>> There are other different examples of how such innovation and technology
>> spaces have developed which we can learn from as we fast track bring the
>> dream of Konza Technopolis into reality. Some include the great and long
>> history of of the silicon Valley, the shenzhen city of China and the Korea's
>> great transformation  journey which happened in one generation.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Eng. John Tanui
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] - proper representation during vision formulation is
>> what is missing - Konza City is now 10 years old
>> From: Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>> To: tanuijohn at gmail.com
>> CC: Odhiambo Washington
>> 
>> 
>>> So, in conclusion, Konza is dead??
>>> 
>>> I can only see suggestions, but nobody is answering the question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 14:47, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Barrack, well noted. Personally I would wish for Konza to
>>>> succeed... maybe the vision should be broadened initially e.g. pitching
>>>> it as a general SEZ where people can buy low priced duty free goods (like
>>>> a "little dubai") provided they are locally manufactured.
>>>> 
>>>> Gov could recover the taxes indirectly e.g. through PAYE for the new jobs
>>>> created. Hence a win/win. Price of rent and core services would have to
>>>> be controlled (kept below market) for an initial period - say 10 years b4
>>>> gradually transitioning to "free markets".
>>>> 
>>>> Incentives that boost regional demand for outputs could be what is
>>>> missing. If business people know they will make money in Konza, they will
>>>> set up.
>>>> 
>>>> The grandiosity would need to be scaled down initially with focus being
>>>> in foot traffic. Why not do the roads then install tents and run a
>>>> section of it as a trading SEZ for existing local manufacturers (anywhere
>>>> in Kenya) - say for an initial 1 year trial and those that want to
>>>> continue past that period would be asked to locate the manufacturing of
>>>> those products on site...
>>>> 
>>>> Real incentives minimise risk perceptions making it a no brainier....
>>>> 
>>>> Brgds.
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, January 4, 2019, 12:38:56 PM GMT+3, Barrack Otieno
>>>> <otieno.barrack at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for the great points. I totally agree with you. That said all
>>>> is not lost. I attended the launch of Konza by his Excellency President
>>>> Kibaki. The former President in his off the cuff remarks alluded to the
>>>> fact that the project had faced a lot of opposition from the onset by
>>>> those who felt it was a misplaced priority. He actually compared it to
>>>> those that never believed that the country would have free primary
>>>> education. In his opinion Konza was an idea whose time had come. Its
>>>> unfortunate that the change in government came with new priorities. That
>>>> said, there is still hope for Konza, the dual carriageway to Mombasa and
>>>> the SGR will literally bring the City closer to Nairobi thus solving
>>>> mobility issues. One just needs to drive to Machakos to see where Nairobi
>>>> is expanding to. The Government also needs to prioritize the project and
>>>> fund it just as it has done with the SGR. I agree with you that there is
>>>> need for broader stakeholder engagement. The Ministry of Trade and
>>>> Industry and the relevant government arm that deals with Technical and
>>>> Vocational Education. I would have hoped to see visionaries like Dr.
>>>> Bitange Ndemo, Nyaki Adeya and even the former President Mwai Kibaki play
>>>> an active advisory role on the Konza project.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 4:42 PM Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet
>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The root cause is a lack of proper indigenous MSME representation in the
>>>>> boards and committees that come up with these kinds of visions.
>>>>> Currently where representation exists, it is skewed either in favor of
>>>>> multinationals / bigCorp or to lobbyists beholden to multinationals
>>>>> /bigCorp simply because they have networks for (or can buy) access.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The (flawed) argument in favor of BigCorp is that they represent the big
>>>>> employers or large taxpayers - and I'll explain why its flawed. Big
>>>>> companies operate at higher levels of efficiency compared to smaller
>>>>> companies (because they can leverage automation for example). This is
>>>>> good in the developed world with single-digit unemployment and where
>>>>> where a middle-class already exists - but *terrible* in developing
>>>>> countries with high levels of poverty and >25% unemployment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In developing countries the focus should be on *effectiveness* (not
>>>>> efficiency). For example if you want to create jobs, you know the
>>>>> biggest employer from a macro perspective is the MSMEs because their low
>>>>> levels of operational efficiency forces them to hire more workers for a
>>>>> given economic endeavor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The gap is exponential such that an economic activity that big corp
>>>>> achieves with 10 employees may require 50 startups - each with 2-5
>>>>> employees. If you look at it from an activity perspective, the MSME
>>>>> sector suddenly becomes a mega employer creating jobs at exponential
>>>>> rates (greater than 1000% per economic activity!!!). These are the
>>>>> hidden insights that don't get considered at the right platforms when
>>>>> incentives are being developed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Further, the MSMEs can't afford armies of specialized tax accountants
>>>>> and offshore tax havens. This means that Government can tailor
>>>>> incentives with tax on-boarding (e.g. via a "Taxation Sandbox" for
>>>>> indigenous startups) so that as these MSMEs grow, the Government would
>>>>> be able to collect more taxes from them (and on a broader - more
>>>>> macro-economically stable scale). So MSMEs as a collective also have
>>>>> potential to be come mega taxpayers. The goal should not be to milk
>>>>> taxes today - but to create a robust group of future (3-7 years)
>>>>> taxpayers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Macroeconomic stability is another benefit inherent in MSMEs. Rather
>>>>> than relying on all-or nothing all-eggs-in-one-basket approach that is
>>>>> inevitable with big-corp FDI, the government can build entire ecosystems
>>>>> across a diverse range of sectors. The benefits of this are innumerable.
>>>>> One example is that MSMEs don't bully/bribe the government bureaucracy
>>>>> for unproductive or harmful concessions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As elucidated in Kachwanya's insightful article, the quality of FDI
>>>>> matters. We shouldn't market our people as slave labor. This could have
>>>>> worked in China and India but that era of cheap is now over (AI /
>>>>> Robotics / IoT is quickly making that obsolete). There are technologies
>>>>> that can fully automate basic BPO services (e.g. end user support via NL
>>>>> AI). A proper strategic policy would take modern trends into
>>>>> consideration and identify high-value niches where Kenya can offer a
>>>>> strong global value proposition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another thing Government planners appear to have overlooked is the idea
>>>>> of FDI via acquisition of indigenous startups. This strategy has been
>>>>> executed very well in China and India - which have contextualized their
>>>>> IP and industry laws to give an edge to indigenous clones of trending
>>>>> technologies (e.g. Flipkart in India). Governments all over the world
>>>>> subsidize their startups in order to generate new streams of foreign
>>>>> exchange.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other mistake that I see is reliance on academia / professors for
>>>>> policy guidance... As much as the academia is trying, the reality is
>>>>> that these are the same book-smart academia that churns out half-baked
>>>>> graduates who are out of touch with industry. The local music industry
>>>>> in Kenya is now worth several hundred million shillings as an industry
>>>>> (with potential for billions) and they don't have any professors running
>>>>> their show. Its the street-smart practitioners on the ground who have
>>>>> transformed the industry...
>>>>> 
>>>>> "It is the shoe wearer who know where the shoe hurts."
>>>>> 
>>>>> So to avoid well meaning initiatives like Konza mutating into unintended
>>>>> flops, the government should co-opt practitioner stakeholders who
>>>>> understand the real issues in an industry and who have a desire and
>>>>> vision of a thriving ecosystem. People who can see far ahead - like
>>>>> Kachwana... I am totally blown away by how his 2013 article is so *spot
>>>>> on* - it's like he had a crystal ball!
>>>>> 
>>>>> In business they say the most valuable customer is the one who
>>>>> complains, because that's how you genuinely know where to improve. I
>>>>> believe the same applies at policy and strategic projects level. We want
>>>>> our country to get it right so that everyone can succeed. It's not
>>>>> negativity - its a desire to improve things at ecosystem level for the
>>>>> benefit of all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thankfully our President is on board with the need for MSME incentives
>>>>> and that makes me optimistic that the Country's vision is evolving in a
>>>>> good direction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy new year everyone and may you have a prosperous and successful
>>>>> 2019!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rgds,
>>>>> Patrick A. M. Maina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 3:24:00 PM GMT+3, Mildred Achoch via
>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting conversation. Odhiambo Washington, you mentioning that there
>>>>> is a white paper about Konza prompted me to search for it online. I came
>>>>> across this instead. Written 6 years ago but very pertinent today, I
>>>>> think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.kachwanya.com/2013/01/23/konza-city-meet-the-design-of-a-white-elephant-project-in-the-name-of-silicon-savannah/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Mildred Achoch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check out the Rock 'n' roll film festival, Kenya TV Channel!
>>>>> http://kenyarockfilmfestivaljournal.blogspot.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:06 PM Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Errr, Sam Oduor - I have a feeling that there's a strategy/white paper
>>>>>> somewhere on this Konza thing that might not be in agreement with your
>>>>>> long input.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Usually techies are not historians like you seem inclined. Konza was,
>>>>>> IMHO, supposed to be an ICT hub, not a museum project.
>>>>>> ICT stuff are supposed to be fully functional within months (not years)
>>>>>> after the groundwork has been laid down, lest they become obsoleted by
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So far, what's going on in Konza??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 14:41 Sam Oduor <sam.oduor at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Personally I do not think it was a white elephant; great ideas mature
>>>>>>> over the long term -> cant take 10-50 years.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rome was not built on a single day - the project needs support from
>>>>>>> techies like us and investors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Konza being of National interest should be a phased 10 - 20 - 30 - 40
>>>>>>> - 50 - 60 .... year planned development approach.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Partly I would blame the land/property rush experienced in Kenya btw
>>>>>>> 2009 - 2012 ; guys inflated prices and no one was there to regulate -
>>>>>>> this might have had negative effects some investors planning to go in
>>>>>>> considering investors look at ROI which is key to any investment. I
>>>>>>> cannot see the math of buying land for 50k and selling it at 800k ->
>>>>>>> this was obviously not sustainable; where does such capital come from
>>>>>>> ? Virtual loans ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Konza and many other projects are still very viable in Kenya and I
>>>>>>> have high hopes my only plea is for the Govt to be at the core of
>>>>>>> things like Land, Property and Infrastructure from unjustifiable
>>>>>>> exploits -> this way it will encourage investors to settle creating
>>>>>>> more Jobs which equates to good security, a healthy and sustainable
>>>>>>> economic growth.
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:06 PM Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what activities are going on at the famed Konza City
>>>>>>>> or it's one of those big white elephants??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brian Gitonga Marete shared a post.
>>>>>>>> 12 hrs ·
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It was obvious that Konza City was a con job from the get go.
>>>>>>>> Concentrations of industrial excellence do not sprout up suddenly
>>>>>>>> just because physical buildings and infrastructure are around. That
>>>>>>>> is not the bottleneck, and anyone can provide that. The real battles
>>>>>>>> of realizing something like the proposed Konza city are elsewhere.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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