[kictanet] [Your thoughts on local Media coverage of Safaricom's massive downtime?] Concentration risks

Sun Nov 11 20:28:03 EAT 2018

https://youtu.be/QF9aMTbCOpw, the camp is kakuma and not dadaab

On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Hannington Oduor <hanningtondr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On dadaab community networks, I will post a link here, but in summary, one
> of the refugees has some engament with a local isp and retailers the
> service through managed community networks, this was featured in one of the
> local media.
>
> On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Hannington Oduor <hanningtondr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Most would argue that the perceived dominance is well balanced through
>> infrastructure shearing, but more than ever central point of failure has
>> clearly been demonstrated, from security to energy,  health to financial
>> institutions, just trying to imagine how it would be today if the ongoing
>> exams were entangled within the same infrastructure, scenario wouldn't be
>> very different from 8/8/17.
>>
>> On media, it's a fact to state that the current media has lost its
>> position and clout within the society, forever playing catchup to the
>> social media.
>>
>> professional now catch up and advertise on LinkedIn, brands are launched
>> on Instagram while news breaks and trends on Twitter and Facebooks, if not
>> for the Kenyan culture who believe it's not true unless on mainstream
>> media, the breath is thinning by the second.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Ali,
>>>
>>> I'm really trying to understand your viewpoint. Can you give an example
>>> that illustrates how you demarcate between "Utopian Idealism", "Pragmatic
>>> Idealism", "Pragmatism" and "Realism" in the context of this discussion?
>>>
>>> So you are saying that once a company (or any entity) has won people's
>>> "hearts and minds" it becomes permanently irreproachable and should never
>>> be criticized? That's a scary, (and somewhat Utopian?), way of looking at
>>> things.
>>>
>>> This discussion can yield great insights if the disagreeing sides
>>> present compelling and focused counter arguments that address the specific
>>> issues raised. Otherwise we might just as well switch to discussing
>>> politics and ideologies where emotion rules reason...
>>>
>>> At the very least, lets all come out more enlightened (in a balanced
>>> way) about what the real issues are.
>>>
>>> Patrick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 11, 2018, 4:18:19 PM GMT+3, Ali Hussein via kictanet
>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ohaga/Patrick and all you Utopian Idealists out there:-
>>>
>>> 1. I refuse to continue disparaging a company that has won the hearts
>>> and minds of a big part of it's consumers despite it's inadequacies. I have
>>> argued many times here that 'dominance' is not a crime and that the failure
>>> of regulation is not something to hold Safaricom accountable for. Hold it
>>> against the regulator for f*@$s sake!  There are remedies that can take
>>> care of that based on the law.
>>>
>>> 2. On Facebook and Google. You are correct and we agree here. Someone
>>> has to pay the piper. There's nothing like a free lunch.
>>>
>>> 3. Safaricom is not perfect. It has many vulnerabilities. If only one
>>> pays attention to it. For one, their UX, even as they claim leadership here
>>> is crap. And I have written many times about this. Instead of spending so
>>> much time #GreenBashing here's an idea - Go build a business model to
>>> challenge it. It's not as hard as you guys make it sound. Here's a snippet
>>> on my thoughts regarding Safaricom's perceived leadership.
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6464499552186621952>
>>>
>>>
>>> There are organizations doing something about it. I fear that this
>>> fetish on Safaricom's perceived dominance is detracting us from building
>>> lasting organizations.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>
>>> *Principal*
>>>
>>> *AHK & Associates*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>
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>>>
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>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
>>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>> organizations that I work with.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 2:36 PM Ohaga JB via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Hussein,
>>>
>>> On this one, I totally agree with Patrick, this is a quintessential
>>> example of what may go wrong when you have a very powerful and definitely
>>> dominant player, that single handedly 'runs' about 60% of all media
>>> operations in the country through its advertising spends. Considering the
>>> political economy of the media, Safaricom is certainly not just dominating
>>> the mobile service market, it is also highy influencing (whether actively
>>> or passively) what the mainstream media prints or broadcasts.
>>>
>>> On the 'freeness of Google and Facebook, I think that you've also
>>> adopted an idealistic view. How are those two platforms free exactly? Users
>>> are essentially consumers to be sold to companies looking to advertise.
>>> This is the reason why their algorithms prioritize some content over others
>>> (hence 'freeness' is reduced to their business interests). And even though
>>> we are gradually increasing our digital footprint in Kenya, there are loads
>>> of places in this country where the mainstream media (radio especially) is
>>> the main source of information. Amongst most digital savvy users, news is
>>> gotten from social media yes, but then a lot of these guys wait for
>>> verification of the same infro they've gotten from social, from the
>>> mainstream media. In fact, even on social media, some of the most credible
>>> sources of information are posts from verified accounts of mainstream media
>>> orgs. This has indeed become even more pressing in view of proliferation of
>>> fake news.
>>>
>>> My view is that Safaricom needs to be held much more accountable given
>>> the kind of power that it holds across our communications and financial
>>> sector. It needs to prove that despite it's dominance, it's put mechanisms
>>> in place to ensure that as mininal disruption as possible, is experienced
>>> to the services that it provides, should a negative eventuality that
>>> affects its operations occurs, as it most certainly will.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the market does not always have a solution for everything
>>> especially because it's main focus is profit generation. At times, a
>>> combination of market forces and interventions in public interest work best
>>> for both the businesses and the public.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> JB.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 11:34 AM Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> I completely agree with you on this. However, I have a different
>>> solution to this. Local media stopped being the only source of major news
>>> today. Many a time news breaks out through bloggers and influencers on
>>> social media. The mainstream media is quickly becoming irrelevant as they
>>> continue depending on big ad spenders. They should have gone down market
>>> long time ago.
>>>
>>> The issue of big media houses pandering to their advertisers is neither
>>> new or is it confined to Kenya. To focus on one entity is disingenuous to
>>> say the least...
>>>
>>> And by the way there’s nothing like ‘free’ in media. Free is Facebook
>>> and Google. And see where that's getting us.. someone must pay the piper
>>> brother. If not now then eventually. The bill eventually comes due. No two
>>> ways about it.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>
>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>
>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>
>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 10 Nov 2018, at 10:09 PM, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is our media truly independent, objective and fearless as they claim -
>>> especially when it comes to reporting on their most lucrative customers? Compare
>>> to the prominence and coverage of reports on Government website downtime,
>>> as well as Huduma downtimes for example...
>>>
>>> My take is, when you have an entity (or group of entities) that the
>>> media appears to "fear" or "favor" more than the Government, the potential
>>> for impunity and abuse that comes with such power should be of great
>>> concern to any regulator. At the very least, it can allow public interest
>>> problems (or their impact) to stay under the radar for a long time with a
>>> heavy cost to the wider economy.
>>>
>>> A healthy (and free) media should have well diversified revenue streams
>>> such that there is minimum conflict of interest that is potentially
>>> attributable to the concentration of market power. Yet another solid reason
>>> (imo) for modernization of our anti-trust regulations.
>>>
>>> ====
>>> I wonder if the CCTVs are affected.. hopefully there is a proper
>>> continuity plan in place.
>>>
>>> ====
>>> As stated in my earlier email just a few days ago, dominant players
>>> should be mandated by law to demonstrate adequate provision for continuity
>>> and resiliency across all economic sectors where they are active - with
>>> independent audits, certification and testing of their BCP, DRP etc - the
>>> frequency of which should be aligned with potential severity of downtimes.
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> Have a great weekend!
>>> Patrick.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 10, 2018, 5:39:15 PM GMT+3, Twahir Hussein Kassim
>>> via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hannington, kindly brief us on the Dadaab example.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 12:50 Hannington Oduor via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
>>>
>>> Dadaab refugee camp has a classic example of such a network and bearing
>>> it's location and the regulation, it's a potential data resource area.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 16:39 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
>>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> Am looking at rolling out a community network in Kilifi. What are the
>>> government regulations on this? CA website is silent on this.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Twahir
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