<a href="https://youtu.be/QF9aMTbCOpw">https://youtu.be/QF9aMTbCOpw</a>, the camp is kakuma and not dadaab<br><br>On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Hannington Oduor <<a href="mailto:hanningtondr@gmail.com">hanningtondr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On dadaab community networks, I will post a link here, but in summary, one of the refugees has some engament with a local isp and retailers the service through managed community networks, this was featured in one of the local media.<br><br>On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Hannington Oduor <<a href="mailto:hanningtondr@gmail.com" target="_blank">hanningtondr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Most would argue that the perceived dominance is well balanced through infrastructure shearing, but more than ever central point of failure has clearly been demonstrated, from security to energy, health to financial institutions, just trying to imagine how it would be today if the ongoing exams were entangled within the same infrastructure, scenario wouldn't be very different from 8/8/17.<div><br></div><div>On media, it's a fact to state that the current media has lost its position and clout within the society, forever playing catchup to the social media. </div><div><br></div><div>professional now catch up and advertise on LinkedIn, brands are launched on Instagram while news breaks and trends on Twitter and Facebooks, if not for the Kenyan culture who believe it's not true unless on mainstream media, the breath is thinning by the second.<br><br>On Sunday, November 11, 2018, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div>Ali,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm really trying to understand your viewpoint. Can you give an example that illustrates how you demarcate between "Utopian Idealism", "Pragmatic Idealism", "Pragmatism" and "Realism" in the context of this discussion?</div><div><br></div><div>So you are saying that once a company (or any entity) has won people's "hearts and minds" it becomes permanently irreproachable and should never be criticized? That's a scary, (and somewhat Utopian?), way of looking at things.</div><div><br></div><div>This discussion can yield great insights if the disagreeing sides present compelling and focused counter arguments that address the specific issues raised. Otherwise we might just as well switch to discussing politics and ideologies where emotion rules reason...</div><div><br></div><div>At the very least, lets all come out more enlightened (in a balanced way) about what the real issues are.</div><div><br></div><div>Patrick.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, November 11, 2018, 4:18:19 PM GMT+3, Ali Hussein via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:
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<div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Ohaga/Patrick and all you Utopian Idealists out there:-</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">1. I refuse to continue disparaging a company that has won the hearts and minds of a big part of it's consumers despite it's inadequacies. I have argued many times here that 'dominance' is not a crime and that the failure of regulation is not something to hold Safaricom accountable for. Hold it against the regulator for f*@$s sake! There are remedies that can take care of that based on the law. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">2. On Facebook and Google. You are correct and we agree here. Someone has to pay the piper. There's nothing like a free lunch. </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">3. Safaricom is not perfect. It has many vulnerabilities. If only one pays attention to it. For one, their UX, even as they claim leadership here is crap. And I have written many times about this. Instead of spending so much time #GreenBashing here's an idea - Go build a business model to challenge it. It's not as hard as you guys make it sound. Here's a snippet on my thoughts regarding <a shape="rect" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6464499552186621952" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Safaricom's perceived leadership.</a> </div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">There are organizations doing something about it. I fear that this fetish on Safaricom's perceived dominance is detracting us from building lasting organizations.</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif">Regards</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br clear="none"></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><b><font face="georgia, serif" size="2">Ali
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<span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 2:36 PM Ohaga JB via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Hussein,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>On this one, I totally agree with Patrick, this is a quintessential example of what may go wrong when you have a very powerful and definitely dominant player, that single handedly 'runs' about 60% of all media operations in the country through its advertising spends. Considering the political economy of the media, Safaricom is certainly not just dominating the mobile service market, it is also highy influencing (whether actively or passively) what the mainstream media prints or broadcasts.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>On the 'freeness of Google and Facebook, I think that you've also adopted an idealistic view. How are those two platforms free exactly? Users are essentially consumers to be sold to companies looking to advertise. This is the reason why their algorithms prioritize some content over others (hence 'freeness' is reduced to their business interests). And even though we are gradually increasing our digital footprint in Kenya, there are loads of places in this country where the mainstream media (radio especially) is the main source of information. Amongst most digital savvy users, news is gotten from social media yes, but then a lot of these guys wait for verification of the same infro they've gotten from social, from the mainstream media. In fact, even on social media, some of the most credible sources of information are posts from verified accounts of mainstream media orgs. This has indeed become even more pressing in view of proliferation of fake news.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>My view is that Safaricom needs to be held much more accountable given the kind of power that it holds across our communications and financial sector. It needs to prove that despite it's dominance, it's put mechanisms in place to ensure that as mininal disruption as possible, is experienced to the services that it provides, should a negative eventuality that affects its operations occurs, as it most certainly will.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>In my opinion, the market does not always have a solution for everything especially because it's main focus is profit generation. At times, a combination of market forces and interventions in public interest work best for both the businesses and the public.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards,</div><div>JB.</div></div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 11:34 AM Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Patrick<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I completely agree with you on this. However, I have a different solution to this. Local media stopped being the only source of major news today. Many a time news breaks out through bloggers and influencers on social media. The mainstream media is quickly becoming irrelevant as they continue depending on big ad spenders. They should have gone down market long time ago. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The issue of big media houses pandering to their advertisers is neither new or is it confined to Kenya. To focus on one entity is disingenuous to say the least... </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>And by the way there’s nothing like ‘free’ in media. Free is Facebook and Google. And see where that's getting us.. someone must pay the piper brother. If not now then eventually. The bill eventually comes due. No two ways about it.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr"><div><span><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium"><br clear="none"></div><div><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span>Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span>Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span>LinkedIn: <a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.c<wbr>om/in/alihkassim</a><a shape="rect" href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></p><span><font></font></span><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"></p><font><span>Blog: <a shape="rect" href="http://www.alyhussein.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.alyhussein.com</a></span><br clear="none"></font></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div>"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi</div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">On 10 Nov 2018, at 10:09 PM, Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
<div>Is our media truly independent, objective and fearless as they claim - especially when it comes to reporting on their most lucrative customers? <span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px">Compare to the prominence and coverage of reports on Government website downtime, as well as Huduma downtimes for example... </span></span><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>My take is, when you have an entity (or group of entities) that the media appears to "fear" or "favor" more than the Government, the potential for impunity and abuse that comes with such power should be of great concern to any regulator. At the very least, it can allow public interest problems (or their impact) to stay under the radar for a long time with a heavy cost to the wider economy.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>A healthy (and free) media should have well diversified revenue streams such that there is minimum conflict of interest that is potentially attributable to the concentration of market power. Yet another solid reason (imo) for modernization of our anti-trust regulations.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>====</div><div>I wonder if the CCTVs are affected.. hopefully there is a proper continuity plan in place. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>====</div><div>As stated in my earlier email just a few days ago, dominant players should be mandated by law to demonstrate adequate provision for continuity and resiliency across all economic sectors where they are active - with independent audits, certification and testing of their BCP, DRP etc - the frequency of which should be aligned with potential severity of downtimes.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>====</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Have a great weekend!</div><div>Patrick.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
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On Saturday, November 10, 2018, 5:39:15 PM GMT+3, Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:
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<div><div><div><div><div>Hannington, kindly brief us on the Dadaab example.</div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 12:50 Hannington Oduor via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Dadaab refugee camp has a classic example of such a network and bearing it's location and the regulation, it's a potential data resource area. </div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 16:39 Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Listers,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Am looking at rolling out a community network in Kilifi. What are the government regulations on this? CA website is silent on this.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Twahir</div></div>
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