[kictanet] Local IXP (KIXP) peering and Local traffic

Sun May 6 23:17:36 EAT 2018

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

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> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Job Muriuki via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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>> Anyone here from Tespok or CA shed some light.
>>
>> I have a question on what governs local ISP peering in Kenya. There is
>> KIXP at EADC which was set up so to keep local traffic local. Is it open to
>> international carriers like Seacom, Tata, Etisalat, Hurricane electric,
>> China Telkom and others who are present at EADC?
>>
>> The reason I ask is if you take service, IP transit service from any of
>> the carriers and you are not peering at KIXP your IPs (Local traffic) go
>> all the way to either France or UAE and back to Kenya while they could have
>> just peered at KIXP and offer faster and "affordable" connections. It makes
>> no sense for a connection to ecitizen or a server hosted locally at say
>> Node Africa to have to go to IXPs in other countries and brought back to
>> Kenya getting treated and charged as international traffic.
>>
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>
> Mmmm... can you share the traceroutes, perhaps it could be a routing
> policy but I know that most of them do keep traffic bound to the local
> internet local as long as there is local peering going on between the ISP
> and carrier.
>
> Look at this two trace routes. One from a safaricom connation and another
> simbanet. The IP am tracing to is peering ar KIXP on a Hurricane electric's
> IP transit service. The same I P I reach via KIXP from a FON connection
>

Simbanet

Safaricom

FON

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> 

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>> Is KIXP that unreliable or what is the challenge? If we don't grow our
>> local capacity to deliver gigabit speeds in our IXP and take advantage of
>> CDNs available locally, will we ever fully utilise the internet and
>> create jobs at the same time without having multinationals come do it?
>>
>
> I dont believe KIXP is unreliable and to the best of my knowledge, a lot
> of local traffic is being exchanged at the KIXP.
>
>
>
>> Currently getting a data pipe from point A to B over a fiber connection
>> within Kenya is more expensive than getting an internet connection from the
>> same provider which will be carried on the same fiber link as the data pipe
>> which makes absorption of hosting services in Kenya way expensive compared
>> to hosting servers in Europe or America.
>>
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> I tend to believe that different products are costed differently depending
> on the cost of delivering the product or service. Remember local
> infrastructure is still developing and there are no so many options out
> there. Very few local loop providers in other words to give the consumer a
> competitive advantage.
>
>
>> Most Kenyans and even some government agencies result in hosting services
>> overseas and the users are in Kenya then what is the point of investing in
>> fiber locally and have it rot underground while cash is sent to companies
>> out there for a service we can provide locally?
>>
>
> There are so many reasons for this but in a nutshell, its a cost issue
> until the data-center industry grows and cost of electricity drops
> drastically otherwise, hosting outside is far cheaper. So any business
> would want to reduce its capex at any cost.
>
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>> Regards,
>> Job Muriuki,
>>
>> Skype: heviejob
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