[kictanet] Kenya IGF Online Discussions Day 2: Strengthening Data Security in the Context of Emerging Trends

Wed Jul 11 22:36:16 EAT 2018

Thank you Grace - I agree!
Also interesting was the fact that he was from a local university.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 21:43 Grace Bomu <nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is interesting. We have been conditioned to believe that more and
> more data is needed from us to usher us into the brave new world. And the
> use of good old maths to solve shiny new computing problems- We would be
> interested to hear more.... Thank you for this perspective
>
> Il mercoledì 11 luglio 2018, John Paul Karijo <johnpaulem at gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> I was in a multidisciplinary conference a few weeks ago and this
>> presenter was working on a mathematical formula that would allow us to
>> measure the optimum level at which to give up privacy in order for
>> meaningful use to be viable on the data that is accessed.
>>
>> A kind of a sweet spot where the data collected from users is sufficient
>> for analysis, for computation, for analytics... enough for A.I and
>> ubiquitous computing and yet not to the level where it is personally
>> identifiable or can be used for unwarranted or unsolicited or harmful
>> targeting.
>>
>> He is still working on this - I will go look up his name and share later
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> He said something interesting though - that coders didn't know how to do
>> this Math...and didn't consult mathematicians (speaking of needing each
>> other)
>>
>> My reservations though is that even if this did come to fruition in the
>> long run it would become similar to other mathematical formulae such as the
>> one used to calculate speed limits on roads... which totally doesn't make
>> sense in this era... but which we still apply religiously.
>>
>> With kind regards
>>
>>
>> Jeipea
>>
>> Believe in yourself then you can change your world
>>
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>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:21 PM Grace Bomu via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> @ Machuhi, Wahengas may need to be recalled to modify 'hakuna siri ya
>>> watu wawili' to the smartphone era.
>>>
>>> Il mercoledì 11 luglio 2018, Grace Bomu <nmutungu at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> @John, while it is important to understand these distinctions, we
>>>> should also be alive to the pervasiveness of data harvesting in every
>>>> aspect of our lives. We ought therefore to see stakeholders beyond the
>>>> traditional players such as techies, law enforcement and government.
>>>> @Muraya, Collins, thank you for the reality check examples.I n last
>>>> year's KIGF, a big debate during the fireside chat was whether privavcy is
>>>> dead? The call to engage with the Data Protection Bill may be a first step
>>>> in ensuring that those who collect data protect it. We shall heed it
>>>> @Mercy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il mercoledì 11 luglio 2018, K Machuhi via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Haha.. Muraya's 'steal' deserves its own thread. privacy is what you
>>>>> have never told your smartphone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 19:41 S.M. Muraya via kictanet, <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stolen >> "every app on your phone is allowed un-monitored access to
>>>>>> everything and that with your full consent.."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:46 AM Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grace and all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a pertinent issue in 2018. First let me address this in the
>>>>>>> context of Policy and Legislation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. In the absence of solid Policy and laws regarding Data Security
>>>>>>> we are really groping in the dark. I appreciate that there are various
>>>>>>> initiatives ongoing to remedy this situation. From a personal data security
>>>>>>> there’s always the issue of who is accessing my data - this needs to be
>>>>>>> viewed from a personal security angle i.e hackers, unauthorized use of data
>>>>>>> by corporates, unsolicited communication using data mining tools,
>>>>>>> government subpoenas etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. From a Corporate perspective the above is relevant but from a
>>>>>>> body corporate perspective. This becomes more important considering the
>>>>>>> magnitude of data some corporates hold and the potential liabilities and
>>>>>>> losses that can arise through data breaches. For example it is alleged that
>>>>>>> Kenyan banks lost Kshs.30 billion in the last 3 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001232241/how-kenyan-banks-lost-sh30-billion-in-two-years-to-tech-savvy-criminals
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. From a government perspective it takes on a National Security
>>>>>>> perspective. As the proliferation of Cloud Computing becomes standard
>>>>>>> operating procedure for most organizations governments are starting to ask
>>>>>>> pertinent questions about control, access to data etc. One critical issue
>>>>>>> that is now a major block is the one about Data Sovereignty. In a nutshell
>>>>>>> the issues around Data Sovereignty can be encapsulated in one sentence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Data sovereignty* comes into play when an organisation's *data* is
>>>>>>> stored outside of their country and is subject to the laws of the country
>>>>>>> in which the *data* resides. The main concern with *data
>>>>>>> sovereignty* is maintaining privacy regulations and keeping foreign
>>>>>>> countries from being able to subpoena *data*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line I’d urge us to expedite the building of both hard
>>>>>>> (roads, bridges, fiber etc) and soft (enabling policy, laws and regulations
>>>>>>> etc) infrastructure. Soft Infrastructure is not going in tandem with hard
>>>>>>> Infrastructure. Data Security is a key component of this. Without this in
>>>>>>> place we cannot expect Tier 4 Data Centre operators to even think about
>>>>>>> investing in Kenya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Jul 2018, at 7:52 AM, Grace Bomu via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>>> Thank you to all who contributed to yesterday's topic. The thread is
>>>>>>> still open for those who may have further thoughts on content regulation.
>>>>>>> Welcome to Day 2 of online pre KIGF debates where out topic today is Strengthening
>>>>>>> Data Security in the Context of Emerging Trends. We shall look at
>>>>>>> cybersecurity in the context of data.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barely a few weeks ago, social media was awash with memes of Wazir
>>>>>>> Boniface Chacha, the young man alleged to have conned MPs after getting
>>>>>>> access to their phone data. Later when this was used as a justification in
>>>>>>> debates for the Cybercrime Act, some wondered whether the political process
>>>>>>> had used the  Chacha saga to justify the quick passage of a law creating
>>>>>>> offences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But beyond "small data" in our personal possession, many SMEs ,
>>>>>>> corporations, institutions, societies and other bodies are holding
>>>>>>> significant amounts of data.
>>>>>>> In this community, the wider issue of cyber security has been a
>>>>>>> recurring theme in KIGF. It is generally agreed that the best approach is a
>>>>>>> multi-pronged one that includes the law, good practices, effective
>>>>>>> mitigation and response to incidences at multiple levels, creation of
>>>>>>> awareness and technical solutions among others. Having gotten a new law in
>>>>>>> the form of the Cybercrimes Act, are we assured of data security?
>>>>>>> Are our existing mechanisms for mitigation and response to
>>>>>>> incidences adequate for emerging threats?
>>>>>>> Do we have positive cases or good practices to imitate?
>>>>>>> What challenges that remain and how can we address them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome to the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Grace Mutung'u
>>>>>>> Skype: gracebomu
>>>>>>> @Bomu
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> SMM
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
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