[kictanet] Day 1 of Talk to the Senate (2017-2022 Priorities)

Mon Feb 5 19:13:40 EAT 2018

Great conversation going on.

I like Delano's suggestions.

While recognising Cybersecurity as extremely important being a
cybersecurity expert myself in academics and practice, I would suggest that
we don't put the cart before the horse.

Kenya is a developing country, and if you travel to the counties, you
realise it is extremely underdeveloped. The priorities therefore should be
ALL activities that make connectivity available, and affordable for the
peasants across the country. And these activities are non mutually
exclusive.
1. Road infrastructure (how do roads improve internet connectivity? - There
is higher concentration of development activities in areas that are
accessible)
2. Affordable electricity,
3. Streamlined processes for infrastructure deployment
4. Infrastructure sharing,
5. Proper use and monitoring of Universal Service Funds (USF).
6. Reduced taxes on equipment
7. Efficient spectrum management
8. Content. Develop policies that support relevant local content that users
will consume.
9. Data collection of key indicators to measure effectiveness of the
strategies implemented.
10. Concrete policies and better regulation and monitoring. All these are
possible through collaboration and improved relationships between the
business, governments and local communities.

On Feb 5, 2018 5:28 PM, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Hi Julius,
> Interesting take on cybersecurity and counties. Please explain further
> how having cyber security centres at counties would help solve cybercrime
>  and why this is a priority
> .
> Would it not
> suffice
> if county governments had proper cyber security strategies and the
> national centre was responsive to incidents, wherever they occured?
>
>
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2018 07:11, "Julius Njiraini via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Dear kanini mutemi
> am proposing since cyber crime is complex problem, the county government
> should have county incidence reporting centre which should report direct to
> national computer incidence team. These will greatly helps national
> government to come with attacks statistics.
> Julius Njiraini
> Computer forensics investigator
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:55 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Julius. Just a follow up for clarification -do you suggest that
>> cybersecurity should be handled at a county level as opposed to at a
>> national level?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Julius Njiraini via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Listers,
>>>
>>> The Senate committee should identify and come with county committee to
>>> identify and protect Assets in the Cyberspace, Threats against the security
>>> of the Cyberspace, Roles of stakeholders in Cybersecurity, Guidelines for
>>> stakeholders, Cybersecurity controls and Framework of information sharing
>>> and coordination within the counties.
>>>
>>> Julius NjirainiBsc
>>>
>>> compute security and forensics
>>>
>>> Cyber security and forensics investigator
>>>
>>> 0724293490
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's right @Harry! We did see quite a bit of that in the last House
>>>> and devolution definitely suffered. Thank you for raising the cohesion
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> @Deborah, not to worry. Thank you for reposting. Again, the issue of
>>>> duplicity and I might even add counterproductivity comes up. A broad
>>>> reading of Article 96 pits the Senate as the godfather of devolution so I
>>>> believe this is something the Senate ought to be able to address; how do we
>>>> streamline efforts by all these stakeholders to achieve the desired
>>>> results?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Harry Delano <harry26001 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Mercy,
>>>>>
>>>>> A very interesting observation and feedback there. It's one question
>>>>> we will pose back at Senator Halake. We have seen the national and county
>>>>> entities more often than not seem to pull in different directions. We
>>>>> really want to see a pragmatic approach to matters development, where as
>>>>> opposed to every entity charting their own vision rollouts, how does Senate
>>>>> plan to  help achieve synergy across board and avoid competing duplicitous
>>>>> efforts and waste of resources..? My suggestion; Bring all stakeholders on
>>>>> board - National govt/county  agencies as well as the private sector to
>>>>> synergise effort and develop great partnerships for tremendous development.
>>>>> Let's arise and  consign the elephant in the room - politics to the back
>>>>> burner to foster progress and development at a faster pace..
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Feb 2018 10:15, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Harry and Kevin for starting us off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far I gather:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Huduma Centres in the counties
>>>>>>    - IT centres of excellence in the counties
>>>>>>    - Telecommunication infrastructure i.e. making provision for
>>>>>>    fibre optic cables in county road infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may also be useful to note this early on, that the devolution
>>>>>> demographic is one that involves many players e.g. the county governments,
>>>>>> county assemblies, the Senate and the national government. Further that
>>>>>> each has its own role in achieving the aspirations of devolution. While
>>>>>> today the discussion is open to discussing all the ICT challenges in
>>>>>> general, we can start thinking of the role the Senate plays and how it can
>>>>>> use its role to influence the desired changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Kevin Kamonye <
>>>>>> kevin.kamonye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to propose that all Counties include telecommunications
>>>>>>> infrastructure in their road plans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For instance, they should at least lay ample trunking for future
>>>>>>> leasing to any Telco that would wish to run fibre optic cables.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will help avoid the current situation whereby our well done
>>>>>>> roads and pavements are defaced repeatedly as these companies do their
>>>>>>> trenching and tunneling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even further, the counties can run their own metro fibre networks
>>>>>>> and lease the unused cores to the ISPs. Further cooperation between the
>>>>>>> counties could also help in inter-linking these metro networks such that we
>>>>>>> will have all regions covered with protected rings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent on mobile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5 Feb 2018 08:16, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good morning Listers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Welcome to Day 1 of 'Talk to the Senate'. This must have been what
>>>>>>>> the framers of the Constitution had in mind when they entrenched public
>>>>>>>> participation as a key constitutional principle- an opportunity for us to
>>>>>>>> make a case on what we think ought to be the Senate's priority 2017-2022. I
>>>>>>>> therefore encourage that we all participate in this session and look
>>>>>>>> forward to an animated discussion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Grace had briefed us on Friday, we will have a three day
>>>>>>>> discussion focusing on the counties and opportunities for intervention by
>>>>>>>> the Senate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This being the first day, our goal is to bring out issues of
>>>>>>>> concern in the counties as far as ICT is concerned. Once we have these, we
>>>>>>>> will proceed to make proposals on how the Senate may be of help in
>>>>>>>> resolving these issues on Day 2. On Day 3, we will discuss how to foster
>>>>>>>> engagements between the ICT community and the legislature.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is our guiding question for today–
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *What do you consider to be the ICT *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *      (a) challenges; *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *      (b) risks; and *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *      (c) opportunities in the counties?*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As well, if there are ICT success stories coming out of the
>>>>>>>> counties, feel free to highlight them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are honoured to have Senator Abshiro Halake (Vice Chairperson,
>>>>>>>> Senate ICT Committee) on the list. Senator, karibu sana.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This discussion is now open!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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