<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Great conversation going on.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I like Delano's suggestions.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While recognising Cybersecurity as extremely important being a cybersecurity expert myself in academics and practice, I would suggest that we don't put the cart before the horse. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kenya is a developing country, and if you travel to the counties, you realise it is extremely underdeveloped. The priorities therefore should be ALL activities that make connectivity available, and affordable for the peasants across the country. And these activities are non mutually exclusive.</div><div dir="auto">1. Road infrastructure (how do roads improve internet connectivity? - There is higher concentration of development activities in areas that are accessible) </div><div dir="auto">2. Affordable electricity, </div><div dir="auto">3. Streamlined processes for infrastructure deployment</div><div dir="auto">4. Infrastructure sharing, </div><div dir="auto">5. Proper use and monitoring of Universal Service Funds (USF).</div><div dir="auto">6. Reduced taxes on equipment</div><div dir="auto">7. Efficient spectrum management</div><div dir="auto">8. Content. Develop policies that support relevant local content that users will consume.</div><div dir="auto">9. Data collection of key indicators to measure effectiveness of the strategies implemented. </div><div dir="auto">10. Concrete policies and better regulation and monitoring. All these are possible through collaboration and improved relationships between the business, governments and local communities.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 5, 2018 5:28 PM, "Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Hi Julius,</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Interesting take on cybersecurity and counties. <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Please explain further how having cyber security centres at counties would help solve cybercrime</span><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"> and why this is a priority</div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">.</span></div><div dir="auto">Would it not <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;display:inline">suffice</div> if county governments had proper cyber security strategies and the national centre was responsive to incidents, wherever they occured?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 Feb 2018 07:11, "Julius Njiraini via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
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am proposing since cyber crime is complex problem, the county government should have county incidence reporting centre which should report direct to national computer incidence team. These will greatly helps national government to come with attacks statistics. </div><div>Julius Njiraini</div><div>Computer forensics investigator</div></div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 2:55 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Thank you Julius. Just a follow up for clarification -do you suggest that cybersecurity should be handled at a county level as opposed to at a national level?</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283h5">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Julius Njiraini via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283h5"><div dir="ltr">
<p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Dear Listers, </p><p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">The Senate committee should identify and come with county committee to identify and protect Assets in the Cyberspace, Threats against the security of the Cyberspace, Roles of stakeholders in Cybersecurity, Guidelines for stakeholders, Cybersecurity controls and Framework of information sharing and coordination within the counties.</p><p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Julius NjirainiBsc </p><p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">compute security and forensics</p><p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Cyber security and forensics investigator</p><p style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:5px;text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif,sans-serif;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">0724293490<br></p>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998h5">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">That's right @Harry! We did see quite a bit of that in the last House and devolution definitely suffered. Thank you for raising the cohesion issue. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif">@Deborah, not to worry. Thank you for reposting. Again, the issue of duplicity and I might even add counterproductivity comes up. A broad reading of Article 96 pits the Senate as the godfather of devolution so I believe this is something the Senate ought to be able to address; how do we streamline efforts by all these stakeholders to achieve the desired results? </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Harry Delano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harry26001@gmail.com" target="_blank">harry26001@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hey Mercy,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A very interesting observation and feedback there. It's one question we will pose back at Senator Halake. We have seen the national and county entities more often than not seem to pull in different directions. We really want to see a pragmatic approach to matters development, where as opposed to every entity charting their own vision rollouts, how does Senate plan to help achieve synergy across board and avoid competing duplicitous efforts and waste of resources..? My suggestion; Bring all stakeholders on board - National govt/county agencies as well as the private sector to synergise effort and develop great partnerships for tremendous development. Let's arise and consign the elephant in the room - politics to the back burner to foster progress and development at a faster pace..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Harry</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682m_7558464975008299150h5">On 5 Feb 2018 10:15, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682m_7558464975008299150h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Thank you Harry and Kevin for starting us off. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">So far I gather: </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><ul><li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Huduma Centres in the counties</font></li><li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">IT centres of excellence in the counties</font></li><li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Telecommunication infrastructu<wbr>re i.e. making provision for fibre optic cables in county road infrastructure. </font></li></ul><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">It may also be useful to note this early on, that the devolution demographic is one that involves many players e.g. the county governments, county assemblies, the Senate and the national government. Further that each has its own role in achieving the aspirations of devolution. While today the discussion is open to discussing all the ICT challenges in general, we can start thinking of the role the Senate plays and how it can use its role to influence the desired changes. </font></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Kevin Kamonye <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevin.kamonye@gmail.com" target="_blank">kevin.kamonye@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I would like to propose that all Counties include telecommunications infrastructure in their road plans. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For instance, they should at least lay ample trunking for future leasing to any Telco that would wish to run fibre optic cables.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This will help avoid the current situation whereby our well done roads and pavements are defaced repeatedly as these companies do their trenching and tunneling.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even further, the counties can run their own metro fibre networks and lease the unused cores to the ISPs. Further cooperation between the counties could also help in inter-linking these metro networks such that we will have all regions covered with protected rings.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent on mobile. </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682m_7558464975008299150m_1224904583117306002m_-715268988365664252h5">On 5 Feb 2018 08:16, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682m_7558464975008299150m_1224904583117306002m_-715268988365664252h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif"><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">Good morning Listers, <br></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">Welcome to Day 1 of 'Talk to the Senate'. This must have been what the framers of the Constitution had in mind when they entrenched public participation as a key constitutional principle- an opportunity for us to make a case on what we think ought to be the Senate's priority 2017-2022. I therefore encourage that we all participate in this session and look forward to an animated discussion. </p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">As Grace had briefed us on Friday, we will have a three day discussion focusing on the counties and opportunities for intervention by the Senate. </p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">This being the first day, our goal is to bring out issues of concern in the counties as far as ICT is concerned. Once we have these, we will proceed to make proposals on how the Senate may be of help in resolving these issues on Day 2. On Day 3, we will discuss how to foster engagements between the ICT community and the legislature. </p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">This is our guiding question for today–</p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><font color="#0000ff"><br></font></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><i><font color="#0000ff">What do you consider to be the ICT </font></i></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><i><font color="#0000ff"> (a) challenges; </font></i></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><i><font color="#0000ff"> (b) risks; and </font></i></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue""><i><font color="#0000ff"> (c) opportunities in the counties?</font></i></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">As well, if there are ICT success stories coming out of the counties, feel free to highlight them. </p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">We are honoured to have Senator Abshiro Halake (Vice Chairperson, Senate ICT Committee) on the list. Senator, karibu sana. </p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(69,69,69)">This discussion is now open! </p></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_6727380320341021570m_7195219232609118627m_4401360544073882540m_4455448155228133283m_-6203489158402954998m_-6598084184238853682m_7558464975008299150m_1224904583117306002m_-715268988365664252m_5322895510461830615m_6615124222865985637gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b>Mercy Mutemi, Advocate</b>. <br></span></div></div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif"><b><i><br></i></b></span></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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