[kictanet] Banning of the FILM Rafiki

[Mose Karanja]

Washington:

How will policy on sexual orientation and gender identity and expression online be formulated without recourse to its grounding in religion and morality and human rights?

This issue is 100% a KICTANET issue.

KICTANET mailing list is a platform that sees a converge of diverse points of view. When this issue was raised back in 2016, I was ordered to drop it because ‘It is not within KICTANet’s scope’. This was by a KICTANET convener. Now I see entitlement is leading to censorship on what can and cannot be discussed here. KICTANET the registered organization does not own the mailing list. You guys may organise and maintain it - a GREAT service to the Kenyan ICT community - but do not assume you own it.

Occasionally you issue statements claiming they are ‘KCTANET’ positions. Perhaps it is time you categorically indicate that they represent those who intentionally signed up on them instead of dragging everyone into all the positions because as this discussion and the previous on Election Act amendment in 2017 illustrated, we have no common position on most things - we are here to discuss.


-Moses

> On 30 Apr 2018, at 13:13, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> On 30 April 2018 at 16:17, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
> Is Christianity, brought to Kenya by colonizers, “Kenyan culture”? How so?
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> If so, doesn’t saying that it is mean that culture evolves, since Kenyan culture predates the introduction of Christianity by millennia?
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> If culture evolves, then what does it mean to say something is not part of one’s culture?
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> Finally-I’m not Kenyan. I’m Igbo, from south eastern Nigeria. Igbos had, prior to colonization, thousands of years of culture, worshipping many gods. One commonly accepted practice was women husbands-same sex marriage, in which women could take other women as wives, and those wives would bear children for their women husbands.
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> @Ebele, is that Igbo practice the same thing as Lesbianism (or homosexuality for that matter)? NO. That practice of women marrying women and those wives bearing children for their woman husbands is far away from LGBT. The women don't go having those weird moments with their wives! These women marry other women because they are barren and so their wives "help" them get children. Ultimately, men sleep with and impregnate these wives - with the consent of their women husbands.
> Wait, were you trying to justify some portion of the raging debate with that illustration of Igbo culture? :-)
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> PS: Everyone - methinks this post is irrelevant and will not end up bringing forth any policy formulation with a bearing towards ICTs, which is what this forum is all about. The moment religion rears its ugly head in any discussion, that usually marks the "tower of Babel" moment.
> So I intend to kill this thread before it becomes the longest, yet useless thread, that KICTANet has ever had. Anyone opposed to that decision, please raise your hands :-)
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