[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 121, Issue 29

[Michael Ilishebo]

The internet is neutral.....simple as that

On 11 Jun 2017 07:19, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating Terrorism
>       (Ebele Okobi)
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> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 05:16:57 +0000
> From: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating
>         Terrorism
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> This is interesting-but you reference Nigeria shutting down the Internet.
> This isn't something I am aware of-when did this happen? Also Boko Haram is
> actually known for not using the Internet almost at all. Lately, there have
> been very minor attempts likely driven by outside groups, but the Internet
> isn't really a vector for Boko Haram recruitment.
>
> I'd be very interested in context on this statement.
>
> Ebele Okobi | Public Policy Director, Africa
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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 1:52 AM, Andrew Alston via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> wrote:
>
> This may also be of interest?.
>
> For those who want to say that the Internet is bad place, and contributing
> to the rise of extremist and the radicalization of people, and claiming
> that it is the driving force behind the terrorism we see today?.  I was
> curious after reading Theresa May?s comments, and so I went and did some
> research and downloaded the global terrorism database, and started
> crunching numbers for Europe and the United States going back to 1970.
> (Sadly, I don?t have data for 2016 and 2017, but I think the trend is still
> pretty clear)
>
> Attached is a graph of the number of deaths by terrorism in North America
> and Europe from 1970 to 2015 ? ou will notice that there is a steady
> downward trend ? and in the days *BEFORE* the Internet existed ? the rates
> of terrorism were actually *FAR* higher than what they are today.  As
> someone commented on my facebook feed ? maybe it?s because the Internet
> helps us understand each other?s cultures rather than just considering them
> the enemy.  Who knows ? but the fact is ? the arguments that are coming out
> about the Internet driving terrorism simply don?t add up with the numbers
> that are available.
>
> I?ve got some more data that I?ll crunch in the next day or two and will
> share that as well ? specifically, I want to look and see if there is a
> rise in violent terrorist attacks in the global terrorism database that are
> preceded by Internet Shutdowns ? I know that I read that there is evidence
> that Nigeria turning off the Internet to combat Boko Haram contributed to
> more radicalization ? but will crunch the data and see what it says and
> share it with you when I get done.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
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> From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.
> com at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet
> Sent: 11 June 2017 03:02
> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston@
> liquidtelecom.com>>
> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali at hussein.me.ke>>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating
> Terrorism
>
> Rosemary and all
>
> I think articles like these hoodwink us into thinking that governments the
> world over are not already cooperating with big internet firms for National
> Security reasons. Citizens around the world are waking up to the stark
> reality of the choice between enhanced national security and personal
> privacy and choice.
>
> It's a difficult situation. More amplified by how citizens react. Take for
> example the hullabaloo a few months back in Kenya when it was alleged that
> the CA was snooping on us. The outrage on social media was massive and
> sustained. Yet we have a real problem in Kenya where some groups in the
> name of religion spew hate and death liberally. Then there's the alleged
> vigilante on social media who goes out and deliberately metes out
> extrajudicial justice in the most brazen way imaginable and we cheer
> him/her. In the U.K. Theresa May's strategy of calling for an early
> election failed partly because young people (Millennials) voted in larger
> numbers to protest against proposed curbing of privacy online.
>
> It's not an easy situation. Who polices the police? Who makes the choice
> between hate speech and genuine protest against oppression? Take for
> example the Mandela issue. Was he a terrorist or a hero?
>
> http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/332954-todays-terrorist-
> could-tomorrows-hero-mandela-off-us-terror-list-3.html<http
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> These are questions I fear that we will not answer in many years to come.
> Ali Hussein
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> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
> habit."  ~ Aristotle
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 10 Jun 2017, at 7:03 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> There may be an emerging paradigm shift from the traditional intermidiary
> liability  consensus.
>
> http://www.economist.com/news/international/21723106-some-
> criticism-unfair-there-more-they-could-do-tech-giants-are-
> under-fire?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/techgiantsareunderfireforfacil
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>
> Tech giants are now being forced to take up new responsibilities in the
> fight against terrorism.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
> On Jun 10, 2017 5:33 AM, "Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet" <
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> For the blockchain naysayers, this is for you....
>
> #smart contract #smartcities #blockchain disruption
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