[kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating Terrorism

Sun Jun 11 05:45:06 EAT 2017

Dear Ali and Andrew,

Thank you for the great feedback. As Andrew's research suggests the
internet has just increased the availability of information creating an
impression that things are much worse than before. Yes, this truly are
difficult discussions but it's great that we are having them  and that
future generations will pick up from where we are today to find much better
solutions.

Kind regards,

Rosemary.

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Andrew
>
> That's what I call empirical evidence..very interesting.. thanks for
> sharing.
>
> *Ali Hussein*
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> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
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> On 11 Jun 2017, at 3:50 AM, Andrew Alston via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> This may also be of interest….
>
>
>
> For those who want to say that the Internet is bad place, and contributing
> to the rise of extremist and the radicalization of people, and claiming
> that it is the driving force behind the terrorism we see today….  I was
> curious after reading Theresa May’s comments, and so I went and did some
> research and downloaded the global terrorism database, and started
> crunching numbers for Europe and the United States going back to 1970.
> (Sadly, I don’t have data for 2016 and 2017, but I think the trend is still
> pretty clear)
>
>
>
> Attached is a graph of the number of deaths by terrorism in North America
> and Europe from 1970 to 2015 – ou will notice that there is a steady
> downward trend – and in the days **BEFORE** the Internet existed – the
> rates of terrorism were actually **FAR** higher than what they are
> today.  As someone commented on my facebook feed – maybe it’s because the
> Internet helps us understand each other’s cultures rather than just
> considering them the enemy.  Who knows – but the fact is – the arguments
> that are coming out about the Internet driving terrorism simply don’t add
> up with the numbers that are available.
>
>
>
> I’ve got some more data that I’ll crunch in the next day or two and will
> share that as well – specifically, I want to look and see if there is a
> rise in violent terrorist attacks in the global terrorism database that are
> preceded by Internet Shutdowns – I know that I read that there is evidence
> that Nigeria turning off the Internet to combat Boko Haram contributed to
> more radicalization – but will crunch the data and see what it says and
> share it with you when I get done.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Andrew
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>
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> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.
> com at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom.com at lists.kictanet.or.ke>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ali Hussein via kictanet
> *Sent:* 11 June 2017 03:02
> *To:* Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> *Cc:* Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating
> Terrorism
>
>
>
> Rosemary and all
>
>
>
> I think articles like these hoodwink us into thinking that governments the
> world over are not already cooperating with big internet firms for National
> Security reasons. Citizens around the world are waking up to the stark
> reality of the choice between enhanced national security and personal
> privacy and choice.
>
>
>
> It's a difficult situation. More amplified by how citizens react. Take for
> example the hullabaloo a few months back in Kenya when it was alleged that
> the CA was snooping on us. The outrage on social media was massive and
> sustained. Yet we have a real problem in Kenya where some groups in the
> name of religion spew hate and death liberally. Then there's the alleged
> vigilante on social media who goes out and deliberately metes out
> extrajudicial justice in the most brazen way imaginable and we cheer
> him/her. In the U.K. Theresa May's strategy of calling for an early
> election failed partly because young people (Millennials) voted in larger
> numbers to protest against proposed curbing of privacy online.
>
>
>
> It's not an easy situation. Who polices the police? Who makes the choice
> between hate speech and genuine protest against oppression? Take for
> example the Mandela issue. Was he a terrorist or a hero?
>
>
>
> http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/332954-todays-terrorist-
> could-tomorrows-hero-mandela-off-us-terror-list-3.html
>
>
>
> These are questions I fear that we will not answer in many years to come.
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
> *Principal*
>
> *Hussein & Associates*
>
> +254 0713 601113
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>
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> Twitter: @AliHKassim
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>
> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
> habit."  ~ Aristotle
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> Sent from my iPad
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>
> On 10 Jun 2017, at 7:03 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> There may be an emerging paradigm shift from the traditional intermidiary
> liability  consensus.
>
> http://www.economist.com/news/international/21723106-some-
> criticism-unfair-there-more-they-could-do-tech-giants-are-
> under-fire?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/techgiantsareunderfireforfacil
> itatingterrorism,
>
> Tech giants are now being forced to take up new responsibilities in the
> fight against terrorism.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>
> On Jun 10, 2017 5:33 AM, "Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> For the blockchain naysayers, this is for you....
>
>
>
> #smart contract #smartcities #blockchain disruption
>
>
>
> http://m.gulfnews.com/news/uae/emergencies/now-
> smartphone-is-your-passport-in-dubai-1.2040149
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>
> Timothy Oriedo
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> about.me/Timoriedo
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