[kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS

[Rad!]

That is not entirely true.

OCR technology can be used very successfully if one were to take
photographs or photocopies of the manual records and then convert them to
digital form.

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tony White via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Again, the point is **digital** version of the register - within
> minutes, it would be possible to scrape 18 million names and ID
> numbers, and possibly more.
>
> The printed version of the register, distributed to the locations,
> would be much more difficult to use for nefarious purposes - indeed
> the data would need to be re-entered manually.
>
> @Grace Mutung'u - that was only an example - an attempt to inject a
> little humour into the conversation ;)
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
>
> On 20/07/2017, John Kieti <jkieti at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What is funny on the IEBC website is the label "Access Register of
> Voters"
> > insinuating that the voter statistics is the actual register of voters.
> >
> > On the privacy issue, the elections act just says "*Publish the Register
> of
> > Voters online and in such other manner as may be prescribed by
> > regulations.*".
> > Haven't checked finer details in the regulations but it appears the issue
> > of privacy might be mitigated there - my sense though is that details
> such
> > as DoB and phone numbers should not be published.
> >
> > On ID numbers being published, the question would be; how private are
> > national ID numbers? For instance, should the print version of the RoG to
> > be posted at the polling stations not have ID numbers? if so, what
> purpose
> > does it serve to list names of people who are not uniquely identifiable
> by
> > some ID?
> >
> > Then again if names and IDs of people in the register will be pinned at
> > notice boards in the polling stations one week to the elections as they
> > say, then its IEBC's proclivity to be transparent or opaque that
> determines
> > whether the same details will be published online - ie. if Section 6A (3)
> > of the Elections Act mandating them to do so is not conclusive.
> >
> > Just My 25 cents :)
> >
> > Meanwhile the civil society wants IEBC compelled to do so -
> > http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-sued-over-voters-
> register/1056-4020382-dnqryh/index.html
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Tony White via kictanet <
> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> >> Walu, sort of my point.  In the absence of a privacy law, there is no
> >> recourse when personal information is made public - by whoever.
> >>
> >> In this case IEBC is correct to just publish statistics.
> >>
> >> My 'nosy' side would love to trawl through the database - "Oooh, look
> >> where ($name) is registered.  I must visit ($pollingStation) with my
> >> goons" ;)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20/07/2017, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > True that Tony.
> >> > But here is the news - Kenya has NO data protection law or policy.
> >> > So anything flows and goes.
> >> > walu.
> >> >
> >> >       From: Tony White via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> >  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> >> > Cc: Tony White <tony.mzungu at gmail.com>
> >> >  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:17 AM
> >> >  Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS
> >> >
> >> > On the other hand, I do not want **anyone** listing my name and ID
> >> > number for anyone to scrape and mis-use.
> >> >
> >> > Revealing personal information is **not** 'transparency' - it's a
> >> > breach of data privacy!
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Tony
> >> >
> >> > On 19/07/2017, Patrick Mulwa via kictanet
> >> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> We still have a long way to go with regards to Transparency
> @IEBCKenya
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM, John Kieti via kictanet <
> >> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Found it laughable :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Alex K via kictanet <
> >> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> [image: Inline image 1]      What an ICT lie with this IEBC to put
> a
> >> >>>> link for access to a register and then have STATISTICS ON
> REGISTERED
> >> >>>> VOTERS/  DISTRIBUTION OF REGISTERED VOTERS.
> >> >>>> It is so dishonest a move by such a Credible body especially to
> >> >>>> people
> >> >>>> in
> >> >>>> ICT.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Best Regards,
> >> >>>> Mr. Alexander M. Kamau,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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