<div dir="ltr">That is not entirely true.<div><br></div><div>OCR technology can be used very successfully if one were to take photographs or photocopies of the manual records and then convert them to digital form.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tony White via kictanet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke" target="_blank">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Again, the point is **digital** version of the register - within<br>
minutes, it would be possible to scrape 18 million names and ID<br>
numbers, and possibly more.<br>
<br>
The printed version of the register, distributed to the locations,<br>
would be much more difficult to use for nefarious purposes - indeed<br>
the data would need to be re-entered manually.<br>
<br>
@Grace Mutung'u - that was only an example - an attempt to inject a<br>
little humour into the conversation ;)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Tony<br>
<span class=""><br>
<br>
On 20/07/2017, John Kieti <<a href="mailto:jkieti@gmail.com">jkieti@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> What is funny on the IEBC website is the label "Access Register of Voters"<br>
> insinuating that the voter statistics is the actual register of voters.<br>
><br>
</span>> On the privacy issue, the elections act just says "*Publish the Register of<br>
<span class="">> Voters online and in such other manner as may be prescribed by<br>
</span>> regulations.*".<br>
<div><div class="h5">> Haven't checked finer details in the regulations but it appears the issue<br>
> of privacy might be mitigated there - my sense though is that details such<br>
> as DoB and phone numbers should not be published.<br>
><br>
> On ID numbers being published, the question would be; how private are<br>
> national ID numbers? For instance, should the print version of the RoG to<br>
> be posted at the polling stations not have ID numbers? if so, what purpose<br>
> does it serve to list names of people who are not uniquely identifiable by<br>
> some ID?<br>
><br>
> Then again if names and IDs of people in the register will be pinned at<br>
> notice boards in the polling stations one week to the elections as they<br>
> say, then its IEBC's proclivity to be transparent or opaque that determines<br>
> whether the same details will be published online - ie. if Section 6A (3)<br>
> of the Elections Act mandating them to do so is not conclusive.<br>
><br>
> Just My 25 cents :)<br>
><br>
> Meanwhile the civil society wants IEBC compelled to do so -<br>
> <a href="http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-sued-over-voters-register/1056-4020382-dnqryh/index.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.nation.co.ke/news/<wbr>IEBC-sued-over-voters-<wbr>register/1056-4020382-dnqryh/<wbr>index.html</a><br>
> ...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Tony White via kictanet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Walu, sort of my point. In the absence of a privacy law, there is no<br>
>> recourse when personal information is made public - by whoever.<br>
>><br>
>> In this case IEBC is correct to just publish statistics.<br>
>><br>
>> My 'nosy' side would love to trawl through the database - "Oooh, look<br>
>> where ($name) is registered. I must visit ($pollingStation) with my<br>
>> goons" ;)<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Tony<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 20/07/2017, Walubengo J <<a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > True that Tony.<br>
>> > But here is the news - Kenya has NO data protection law or policy.<br>
>> > So anything flows and goes.<br>
>> > walu.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Tony White via kictanet <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><wbr>><br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:jwalu@yahoo.com">jwalu@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> > Cc: Tony White <<a href="mailto:tony.mzungu@gmail.com">tony.mzungu@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:17 AM<br>
>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On the other hand, I do not want **anyone** listing my name and ID<br>
>> > number for anyone to scrape and mis-use.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Revealing personal information is **not** 'transparency' - it's a<br>
>> > breach of data privacy!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> > Tony<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 19/07/2017, Patrick Mulwa via kictanet<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >> We still have a long way to go with regards to Transparency @IEBCKenya<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM, John Kieti via kictanet <<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Found it laughable :)<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Alex K via kictanet <<br>
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>> >>><br>
>> >>>> [image: Inline image 1] What an ICT lie with this IEBC to put a<br>
>> >>>> link for access to a register and then have STATISTICS ON REGISTERED<br>
>> >>>> VOTERS/ DISTRIBUTION OF REGISTERED VOTERS.<br>
>> >>>> It is so dishonest a move by such a Credible body especially to<br>
>> >>>> people<br>
>> >>>> in<br>
>> >>>> ICT.<br>
>> >>>><br>
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