[kictanet] ICT Authority, not Treasury, should oversee IFMIS

Wed Jan 18 18:53:36 EAT 2017

@Watila,
Legally the former ICT Board, eGovernment and GITS were merged to became ICT Authority as per the legal notice 183 of 2013 found @ http://www.kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/LegalNotices/183-StateCorporationsInformationandCommunicationsTechnologyAuthorityOrder2013.PDF
>>>Part II section (3) States: The (ICT) Authority shall be the successor to the following bodiesexisting before the commencement of this Order- (a) the Kenya Information and Communications Technology(ICT) Board; (b) the Directorate of e-Government; and (c) the Government Information Technology Services (GITS)Department. 
>>>
Has this practically and operationally happened? You can only get the answer from ICTA.  But do not be in a hurry for an answer - after all  you are behind Ali on the queue ;-)
Nevertheless, gava is complicated. So you can blame ICTA too much.
walu.
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2ndly, When Dr. Oketch was e-government secretary he pursued a strategy of decentralizing ICT to the Ministries, Agencies and Departments. Apart  from the concept of shared services (which was one of the original justifications for IFMIS) I am not sure what the current e-government strategy is.
Finally if GITS moves to the ICTA will treasury be left without an ICT function?
Regards,

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I agree that there should be a Government CIO to focus on the role of managing all government ICT Systems. NOT the CS because he already has broader cross-cutting roles including those that are outside ICT function. ICTA is a parastatal (under MOICT) that was formed in August 2013 and comprises the following 3 former bodies as its departments:- 1. ICT Board  2. Directorate of e-Government 3. GITS (Government Information Technology Services).This means GITS is the department that is supposed to manage all Government IT Systems. GITS therefore needs empowerment. Peter Mwanyika |Chief ICT Officer – Security & Architecture Planning
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority, not Treasury, should oversee IFMIS Barrack We are saying the same thing really.. Let's assume that the ICTA is the ICT Department of the Government (which I doubt it is equipped to execute that mandate) then 'managing' here really means providing support to the system.  I think it's time the Government considers the role of Chief Information Officer to really manage the strategic thrust of all ICT initiatives across ministries. The CIO can then be held accountable for overall efficiency and security of all Government ICT Systems. This CIO needs to report directly to the Chief Executive Officer (President) of the country. Now, that person could be seconded or be a part of the ICTA with a doted line responsibility to the CS, MOICT... Ultimately the overall responsibility of how well our Government ICT Systems work lies squarely on the CEO's desk. Look no further.Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113  Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle 

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On 17 Jan 2017, at 11:27 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Ali,

ERP grew from MRP (Material Resource Planning which was a means of
planning and allocating resources in Factories. The difference between
the two is that MRP's were stand alone systems whereas ERP's are
modular and have more functionality. From an evolution perspective ,
it would be ideal to manage IFMIS from Ministry of Finance since they
are the custodians of the treasury and normally allocate resources
through the budgeting process. From a Project Management perspective,
it would be ideal to manage IFMIS from ICTA since it is the
specialized agency meant to manage government technology investments.

Regards

On 1/17/17, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Doubt Treasury economists and accountants are well placed to provide Cyber

Security :)

We need the ICT Authority to configure enterprise wide data protection

(limiting theft of passwords & access to IFMIS).

In 2016, the UN ranked the UK as # 1 in providing digital services.

https://publicadministration.un.org/egovkb/en-us/Reports/UN-E-Government-Survey-2016

The Government Digital Service (GDS) is part of their Cabinet Office, not

their Treasury.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/govuk-pay/govuk-pay

Their Treasury is consulted about the payment system  👆🏾  the GDS

continues to build.

SMM

*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one

who takes a city." Prov 16:32*

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:45 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

I fundamentally disagree with this assertion.

First,y, the role of a CIO is to support the enterprise. I have never

heard in my life of an ERP Director. This is just adding a superfluous

layer of useless bureaucracy.

The owner of an ERP is the business with each department taking ownership

of their components:-

1. Financials - CFO

2. CRM (Commercial/marketing/sales)

3. Procurement - Procurement which sometimes comes under Finance

Etc.

The CIO takes ownership to ensure that the company is well oiled to

execute on its mandate. This in my humble opinion goes beyond ERPs and

talks to aligning the Technology Strategy with the Business Strategy. For

example in the banking sector where increasingly the more savvy banks are

taking a 'Platform Thinking' approach. This allows partners to plug into

their core technology through APIs to enable them extend capabilities and

hence offerings to their customers.

The role of a CIO has fundamentally changed to speak to the need for

using

Technology as an accelerator to successful business models.

Secondly, I don't see how the ICT Authority would be better in managing

the monster that is IFMIS. Let them first learn the basics of

communicating

effectively with the community before taking on this elephant in the

room.

*Ali Hussein*

*Principal*

*Hussein & Associates*

+254 0713 601113

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On 17 Jan 2017, at 6:42 PM, S.M. Muraya via kictanet <

kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Interesting comments...

ICT Authority, not Treasury, should oversee IFMIS

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/2274560-

3520560-5j04aq/index.html

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