[kictanet] End of Net Neutrality?

Justus Ondari ondari.justus at gmail.com
Fri Dec 15 15:20:05 EAT 2017


Why Net Neutrality Was Repealed and How It Affects You
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-rules.html?emc=edit_th_20171215&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=60819660

On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Joe
>
> Let’s be clear. This is not a personal attack on you so I’m not sure where
> the ‘Bitterness’ comment is coming from.
>
> This list, myself included have been very consistent on issues regarding
> policy. Way before you become CS. Way before.
>
> To be clear the industry expected a lot more from you on issues like Net
> Neutrality considering your background. You need to lead from the front
> which it is my humble opinion you have not. Making a personal statement on
> Net Neutrality doesn’t a Policy make...
>
> I’m glad you’ve brought up the Policy issue. This list again was very
> involved with MOICT in crafting it and making comments and suggestions. It
> would have been nice for you, as the CEO of the Ministry to have responded
> to our many requests for feedback. Like the one you just made.
>
> As to the comment on playing with our livelihoods...that was an
> unfortunate remark which I unequivocally apologize for. It however comes
> from a good place in my heart and was alluding to the fact that the MOICT
> now seems to think that having an ICT Practitioners’ bill is a good idea.
> This after the community and industry worked diligently with you and your
> team to defeat it earlier in the year.
>
> Lastly Bwana CS all we ask for is more engagement from you and your team.
> We are in this together. This is our country irrespective of our party
> affiliations. If some of the stuff I’ve said have rubbed you the wrong way
> that wasn’t the intention. The intention is to engage for the betterment of
> this our country Kenya.
>
>
> *Ali Hussein*
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> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>
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> On 15 Dec 2017, at 1:44 PM, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Wow! Such bitterness...
>
> I have pronounced myself on various occasions on Net Neutrality. It's
> unfair to say we in MOICT ignore this topic. As it stands, what position
> has the industry given to us policy makers?
>
> As regards the policy, it is at Cabinet awaiting approval alongside other
> bills and policies.
>
> It will be interesting to know how we at MOICT are playing around with
> your livelihoods as well..
>
> JM
>
>
> On 15 Dec 2017 09:04, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Bernard
>
> The answer depends on who you ask.
>
> 1. KITOS
> 2. TESPOK
> 3. ICTAK ( That of the ICT Practitioners Bill shame)
> 4. KICTANET
> 5. KEPSA
>
> At this point your guess is as good as mine. Which brings me to the
> question why this case maybe. Why we don’t have an association that can
> engage Government meaningfully. We, all of us, have ourselves to blame.
> Each of us is so focused in their own little cocoons and speak with no
> single voice that the Mandarins and Apparatchiks at MOICT can and will
> continue to play around with our livelihoods.
>
> Regards
>
>
> *Ali Hussein*
> *Principal*
> *Hussein & Associates*
> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
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>
> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 15 Dec 2017, at 7:24 AM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Ali.
>
> Reading your response has got me wondering, as an industry which
> organization/association do we use to lobby ?
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 07:19, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> Bernard
>>
>> We in Africa first need to acknowledge Net Neutrality as a concept. Today
>> ONLY one country in Africa (Senegal) has even attempted to enact policy and
>> regulation around it. We have ways to go.
>>
>> Kenya, with all our advances have turned a blind eye to it. We need to
>> wake up. This list has consistently for the last 5 years talked about the
>> need to address this issue from a policy and regulatory framework.
>>
>> We have been met with utter silence. The first time this issue was
>> mentioned was in the defunct/dead as a dodo/aborted ICT Policy 2016. And we
>> know (or rather don’t know!) what happened to that document.
>>
>> My take?
>>
>> The free for all, do what you want and we (regulator and policy makers)
>> will just watch helplessly coz after all Net Neutrality is a foreign
>> concept. We don’t understand it. And neither are we bothered. Let the
>> Googles, Facebooks and Netflixes of this world fight it out with their FCC.
>>
>> It doesn’t affect us..
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>
>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 15 Dec 2017, at 6:30 AM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-re
>> peal-explainer/index.html
>>
>> Interested to see thoughts on how this affects Kenya. I am thinking maybe
>> hosting locally could avoid this, which would mean growth for local...
>>
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