[kictanet] End of Net Neutrality?

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Joe

Let’s be clear. This is not a personal attack on you so I’m not sure where the ‘Bitterness’ comment is coming from. 

This list, myself included have been very consistent on issues regarding policy. Way before you become CS. Way before.

To be clear the industry expected a lot more from you on issues like Net Neutrality considering your background. You need to lead from the front which it is my humble opinion you have not. Making a personal statement on Net Neutrality doesn’t a Policy make...

I’m glad you’ve brought up the Policy issue. This list again was very involved with MOICT in crafting it and making comments and suggestions. It would have been nice for you, as the CEO of the Ministry to have responded to our many requests for feedback. Like the one you just made. 

As to the comment on playing with our livelihoods...that was an unfortunate remark which I unequivocally apologize for. It however comes from a good place in my heart and was alluding to the fact that the MOICT now seems to think that having an ICT Practitioners’ bill is a good idea. This after the community and industry worked diligently with you and your team to defeat it earlier in the year.

Lastly Bwana CS all we ask for is more engagement from you and your team. We are in this together. This is our country irrespective of our party affiliations. If some of the stuff I’ve said have rubbed you the wrong way that wasn’t the intention. The intention is to engage for the betterment of this our country Kenya.


Ali Hussein
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> On 15 Dec 2017, at 1:44 PM, Joseph Mucheru via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> Wow! Such bitterness...
> 
> I have pronounced myself on various occasions on Net Neutrality. It's unfair to say we in MOICT ignore this topic. As it stands, what position has the industry given to us policy makers?
> 
> As regards the policy, it is at Cabinet awaiting approval alongside other bills and policies.
> 
> It will be interesting to know how we at MOICT are playing around with your livelihoods as well..
> 
> JM
> 
> 
> On 15 Dec 2017 09:04, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Bernard
> 
> The answer depends on who you ask.
> 
> 1. KITOS
> 2. TESPOK 
> 3. ICTAK ( That of the ICT Practitioners Bill shame)
> 4. KICTANET
> 5. KEPSA
> 
> At this point your guess is as good as mine. Which brings me to the question why this case maybe. Why we don’t have an association that can engage Government meaningfully. We, all of us, have ourselves to blame. Each of us is so focused in their own little cocoons and speak with no single voice that the Mandarins and Apparatchiks at MOICT can and will continue to play around with our livelihoods.
> 
> Regards 
> 
> 
> Ali Hussein
> Principal
> Hussein & Associates
> +254 0713 601113 
> 
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
> Skype: abu-jomo
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> 
> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 15 Dec 2017, at 7:24 AM, Bernard Kioko <bkioko at bernsoft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you Ali. 
>> 
>> Reading your response has got me wondering, as an industry which organization/association do we use to lobby ?
>>> On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 07:19, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>> Bernard
>>> 
>>> We in Africa first need to acknowledge Net Neutrality as a concept. Today ONLY one country in Africa (Senegal) has even attempted to enact policy and regulation around it. We have ways to go. 
>>> 
>>> Kenya, with all our advances have turned a blind eye to it. We need to wake up. This list has consistently for the last 5 years talked about the need to address this issue from a policy and regulatory framework.
>>> 
>>> We have been met with utter silence. The first time this issue was mentioned was in the defunct/dead as a dodo/aborted ICT Policy 2016. And we know (or rather don’t know!) what happened to that document. 
>>> 
>>> My take? 
>>> 
>>> The free for all, do what you want and we (regulator and policy makers) will just watch helplessly coz after all Net Neutrality is a foreign concept. We don’t understand it. And neither are we bothered. Let the Googles, Facebooks and Netflixes of this world fight it out with their FCC. 
>>> 
>>> It doesn’t affect us..
>>> 
>>> Ali Hussein
>>> Principal
>>> Hussein & Associates
>>> +254 0713 601113 
>>> 
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>> 
>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Dec 2017, at 6:30 AM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/net-neutrality-repeal-explainer/index.html
>>>> 
>>>> Interested to see thoughts on how this affects Kenya. I am thinking maybe hosting locally could avoid this, which would mean growth for local...
>>>> 
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