[kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
Joseph Mucheru
joe at mucheru.com
Tue Mar 15 20:16:59 EAT 2016
This is still not an accurate representation of what was said...but close
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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> Barack, from your analogy, are you calling for prosecution of those
> who don't follow the alleged CS directive?
>
> Back to the CS, We may need to get a clarification from him. He may
> actually have been misquoted. Remember this case where Google was
> enjoined in a case to provide the identity of a blogger? From the
> proceedings, Google adamantly refused to do so.
>
> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Waiguru-sues-Google--Kenyan-website-for-defamation-/-/539546/2847522/-/cgpe57z/-/index.html
>
> Anne Waiguru v Google Inc & 2 others [2014] eKLR:
> http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/104246/
>
> Regards
>
> On 15/03/2016, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> > Hehe Wangari,
> >
> > I apologize for using complicated terms (POTUS effect) , indeed as you
> > say, the Internet is a jungle. The best way to regulate a jungle is
> > through policy and technology as seen in modern day conservancies.
> >
> > I will attempt to use animal farm analogy ;-)
> >
> > The other way is to have a fence around the jungle (use of
> > technology). You can electrify it to make trespassers feel good when
> > they touch it, that way they pay attention to the fence. Normally when
> > an elephant touches electric fence it is possible to pinpoint where
> > that happened, hence technology becomes both a detterent based on the
> > feeling the animal gets when it touches the fence and a guide on the
> > bounderies of the jungle as well as a source of information to the
> > wardens on possible scenes of crime.
> >
> > I hope this makes sense
> >
> > On 3/15/16, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > wrote:
> >> Greetings Barrack,
> >>
> >> Can the internet justify its being "driven by trust"?
> >>
> >> Let us take banking which in the last week has tried to convince Kenyans
> >> not
> >> to run react, that all banks are not falling in Kenya or pulling out of
> >> Kenya through the Kenya Bankers Association adverts.
> >> This is a coordinated effort by the players to have a system that builds
> >> relative trust (note the word relative). Secondly banks operate in a
> >> similar
> >> way - central clearing house which gives the government a point to
> >> reference
> >> with on that is happening in the industry even if there may still be
> slip
> >> ups and covert activities such as money laundering
> >>
> >> The internet appears to the rule of the jungle. Even more the Government
> >> itself seems to have no point to have "real" control or coordination.The
> >> creators seem to have this control.
> >> Perhaps this should've been done when the internet was invented.
> >>
> >> Again this also takes us to the question, who owns the internet? Because
> >> they would have all the answers - from control, access, coordination
> >> which
> >> is a role that Governments play in most if not all sectors.Or is the
> >> Government to redefine its role where the internet is concerned?
> >>
> >> PS: Na Barrack ukitumia majina makubwa makubwa like Social Engineering -
> >> you
> >> explain.
> >>
> >> Blessed day.
> >>
> >> Regards/Wangari
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
> >> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God
> on
> >> Earth".
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 15/3/16, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] To be or not to be a pseudonymous blogger
> >> To: wangarikabiru at yahoo.co.uk
> >> Cc: "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>, "Nanjira Sambuli"
> >> <nanjira at ihub.co.ke>
> >> Date: Tuesday, 15 March, 2016, 13:49
> >>
> >> Many thanks Ebele,
> >>
> >> I agree with Nanjira's
> >> postulation. Whereas Cabinet Secretary
> >> Mucheru's view point may be justified to a
> >> certain extent, it wouldn't
> >> be prudent
> >> since it will curtail the growth and developement of the
> >> Internet which has partly been driven by trust.
> >> My humble opinion is
> >> that if we take care of
> >> the Infrastructure issues such as natting, we
> >> don't need to worry about Pseudonym's.
> >> One way would be to encourage
> >> adoption of IP
> >> V 6 which avails an Internet Protocol address for every
> >> device which would in turn make it easy to
> >> trace sources of
> >> information. The government
> >> could also adopt an approach of educate
> >> users through Social Engineering. This is my
> >> opinion but i stand to be
> >> corrected.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> On 3/15/16, Ebele Okobi via
> >> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Just a clarification-
> >> > Facebook absolutely agrees that there
> >> should be spaces on the Internet where
> >> >
> >> people can share anonymously, including some of our own
> >> properties, like
> >> > Instagram. That said,
> >> Facebook itself is a space where community and trust
> >> > depend upon people being able to connect
> >> with people they know, so Facebook
> >> >
> >> community standards require people to use names they are
> >> known to use in
> >> > "real"
> >> life.
> >> >
> >> > We do not
> >> proactively moderate for this, but fake accounts are
> >> definitely
> >> > taken down if and when they
> >> are reported to us, and we include mechanisms
> >> > for reporting fake names or accounts
> >> directly in the platform so that anyone
> >> >
> >> on Facebook, whether or not the reporting person has an
> >> account, can
> >> > report.
> >> >
> >> > Screen shot of report
> >> flow pasted below-
> >> > [image1.PNG]
> >> >
> >> > Ebele Okobi | Head of
> >> Public Policy, Africa
> >> > m. +44 (0) 771
> >> 156 1315<tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315>
> >> > 10 Brock Street |
> >> London<x-apple-data-detectors://0/1> | NW1 3FG
> >> > ebeleokobi at fb.com<mailto:ebeleokobi at fb.com>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> [6F376569-CC77-422B-BAD3-794055B1E02B]
> >> >
> >> > On Mar 15, 2016, at
> >> 9:27 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet
> >> >
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > To me, such a move would be in direct
> >> contravention of article 31 (d) of the
> >> >
> >> Constitution.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Given that blogging in Kenya is taken to mean anyone with a
> >> social media
> >> > account expressing their
> >> opinions, I think it's a slippery slope. Facebook
> >> > tried to enforce a real name policy, I
> >> believe so did Google, and that
> >> >
> >> didn't bode well.
> >> >
> >> > While I see why the government would want
> >> to take that approach (and could
> >> > be
> >> argued with s 33(2)..), it is worrisome. And "clamping
> >> down" is a
> >> > militant choice of
> >> words...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Nanjira.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my
> >> iPhone.
> >> >
> >> > On 15 Mar
> >> 2016, at 02:33,
> >> >
> >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:
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> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > To be or not to be a pseudonymous
> >> blogger
> >> >
> >> >
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