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Fri Dec 2 16:50:26 EAT 2016

This has surprised me - side note that says KE's data is not available?

Regards,

Eric 

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> On 2 Dec 2016, at 10:13, JImmy Gitonga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> Hmmm,
> 
> There is no contention on the need for hard working, innovative "ICT practitioners" passionate about their craft.
> 
> What is in contention is whether this is the right time to bring in regulation to the industry, not regulation of the practice. What we don't have, because the ingredients forming the industry are still changing rapidly is an ICT profession. Will there ever be an all-round ICT "professional"? 
> 
> Looking at human medicine, the human body is not changing, so one can standardise the medical profession, with known practices and various specialisations once the basic learning is done.
> 
> It that it?
> 
> We need to accept that ICT is in everything now. And it is entering mission-critical, life dependant places. And for a doctor who wants to carry out a remote surgical operation, the ICT professional helping him set up the equipment on local and remote site better be qualified in something beyond passion and innovation. Those don’t cut it at that point.
> 
> 
> The Wright brothers had no flying license. The pilots today do.
> 
> I liken it to weaving a rope. At some points all the strands have to come together and form the rope. Are we looking at the quality of the strand or the strength of the rope? If it is both, then there are two different mechanisms at play.
> 
> We need to separate those.
> 
> 
> 
> Jimmy Gitonga
> Web and Motion
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Dec 2016, at 11:05 AM, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote:
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> Message: 1
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> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:03:56 +0300
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> From: Nelson J kwaje <nelson at web4all.co.ke>
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> To: James Muendo <james at muendo.co.ke>, KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> 
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
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> Message-ID: <c3e04afb-f032-61ab-2e5d-f8698218653d at web4all.co.ke>
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> 
> @James,
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> I like how people are open minded about ICT professional.  it is okay to 
> 
> be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have 
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> passion and be good at what you do.
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> 
> 
> Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations, few 
> 
> standards and no regularity body  until we realized that our lives 
> 
> depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic.
> 
> 
> 
> The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are 
> 
> starting to cause some serious damages  and the society is right when it 
> 
> demands some yardstick to know who is who.
> 
> 
> 
> Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ?
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> 
> 
> Can you go to the  operating theater  with a passionate and committed 
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> doctor but no certificate ?
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> 
> 
> Why will you accept anyone to mange  the system for your bank, hospital, 
> 
> airport and even national security.
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> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Nelson
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> With the best regards,
> 
> Jimmy Gitonga
> 
> 
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>>    1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Dorcas Muthoni)
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>> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 11:53:11 +0300
>> From: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
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>> Unfortunately, judging from my experience,  both in public and private
>> sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack
>> ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff.
>> 
>> In which case,  industry professionals can help in defining a criteria for
>> all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions and
>> universities.
>> 
>> As we know,  new professions are being defined daily. Some core
>> fundamentals remain the same.
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> 
>> > In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be
>> > institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally.
>> > Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of
>> > approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent
>> > companies have diffrent clearance level.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet <
>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> @James,
>> >>
>> >> I like how people are open minded about ICT professional.  it is okay to
>> >> be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have passion
>> >> and be good at what you do.
>> >>
>> >> Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few  regulations, few
>> >> standards and no regularity body  until we realized that our lives depends
>> >> on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic.
>> >>
>> >> The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors  are
>> >> starting to cause some serious damages  and the society is right when it
>> >> demands some yardstick to know who is who.
>> >>
>> >> Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ?
>> >>
>> >> Can you go to the  operating theater  with a passionate and committed
>> >> doctor but no certificate ?
>> >>
>> >> Why will you accept anyone to mange  the system for your bank, hospital,
>> >> airport and even national security.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Nelson
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